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  • Muriatic acid alternatives: Sulfuric Acid, Sodium Bisulfate and CO2

    00:00 - Intro

    01:33 - We're in an muriatic acid shortage. Thanks, COVID.

    02:21 - Two specialty acids: modified Muriatic Acids for less fuming: AcidBlue and AcidMagic. 

    03:06 - Muriatic acid is a diluted form of Hydrochloric acid (HCl). It is 31.45% HCl or less.

    04:14 - Sulfuric acid (H2SO4) is sold in 38.5% concentration. It is comparable in dosing to standard 31.45% HCl. It takes just 2% more sulfuric acid to equal muriatic by volume.

    09:36 - Sodium bisulfate (NaHSO4) is sold in 93.2% concentration. It is also known as "dry acid", or in pool retail stores, "pH down" or "alkalinity down". It is safer to handle than liquid acid, but needs to be pre-dissolved before adding to the pool.

    11:48 - Let's talk about sulfates (SO4--) or (SO3--).

    12:05 - One gallon of 38.5% sulfuric acid leaves behind 47.1 ppm of sulfates in 10,000 gallons.

    13:19 - One pound of 93.2% of sodium bisulfate leaves behind 9.6 ppm of sulfates in 10,000 gallons, plus salt.

    14:58 - even in perfectly LSI-balanced water, if you have high enough sulfates, you can still have etching of cement. The sulfate ion (SO3--) can become the dominant ion and kicks carbonate off of calcium (Ca++) and create calcium sulfate.  Enough calcium sulfate can precipitate a sharp crystalline scale.

    18:08 - The only way to reduce sulfates is to drain and dilute.  Unless you have Reverse Osmosis (R.O.) available. If you're going to use sulfuric or sodium bisulfate, you must regularly schedule dilutions to avoid sulfate problems.

    19:53 - Sulfates and metals can combine to create that infamous 'rotten egg' smell. We think of it as sulfur, but it's usually iron sulfate or some variant.

    21:08 - The third alternative for pH reduction is injecting carbon dioxide (CO2). It reduces pH but does not reduce alkalinity. In fact, alkalinity tends to rise due to excess lye from chlorine.

    22:18 - Acid only introduces more CO2 (to reduce pH) is to burn through alkalinity and convert it into carbonic acid.  And Joe thought I was asking a trick question. There is no CO2 in acid.

    24:39 - One pound of CO2 is equivalent to 32.8 fl.oz. of standard Muriatic Acid for pH correction.

    27:08 - Summary

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    29 min
  • Ways to optimize chlorine efficiency

    00:00 - Intro

    02:57 - How to we make use of the limited chlorine we have?

    03:33 - The chlorine shortage explained (by Joe, so it's better)

    06:58 - Chlorinate at a time that direct sunlight does not hit the liquid chlorine. Either in shade or at night.

    09:06 - Don't hoard liquid chlorine. It degrades over time, and don't be that person. Your peers and neighbors need chlorine too. 

    10:22 - What else can be done? Secondary oxidation/sanitization can supplement chlorine.

    12:34 - What about deliberately slowing down chlorine? (Intentionally raising CYA)

    15:02 - If you raise CYA on purpose, you can do that, but you should remove phosphates and non-living organics to further optimize the slower chlorine that you have.

    15:55 - Keep nitrogen compounds (like ammonia or urea) out of your pool. 

    19:28 - If you're using algaecides, be aware of their byproducts. All of them have byproducts that will eventually conflict with chlorine and reduce it.

    21:14 - Summary

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    25 min
  • How to Use Less Acid: Stop Chasing pH

    00:00 - Intro

    01:23 - Acid shortage.

    03:18 - Why do we chase pH? Because the textbooks tell us to.

    04:01 - Chlorine speed (%HOCl) and pH

    06:18 - pH and bather comfort? Fake news.

    07:03 - We have been conditioned to look to acid for help

    09:31 - LSI first, range chemistry second.

    10:24 - Containing pH instead of trying to control it

    12:28 - Physics and pH rebound

    13:42 - Equilibrium between water and air

    15:09 - Henry's Law

    18:26 - Carbonated beer

    19:47 - pH ceiling

    22:25 - Containing the natural pH rise

    26:18 - Micro adjustments

    28:09 - Chemical shortages are opportunities for positive change

    30:18 - Summary. Thanks for listening!

     

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    33 min
  • Minimalist Pool Care, with Harold Evans

    00:00 - Intro

    01:20 - Orenda is more of a philosophy than a product line

    04:12 - Chemical conflicts

    14:43 - No long-term byproducts left behind (Papaw's Law)

    19:29 - Minimalist pool care

    31:40 - The love affair with chlorine and acid is a bad habit, and it has consequences

    37:24 - A trusted source of information for all levels of pool owners/operators

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    44 min
  • The Golden Rule, with Harold Evans

    00:00 - Intro

    03:48 - Our strategy at Orenda: a minimalist approach, proactive pool chemistry

    06:24 - What has changed in the pool industry culture?

    09:00 - The aptitude in the industry has improved, and is essential for our future

    09:47 - Old habits still dominate...but change is already occurring in a good direction 

    14:03 - Cynicism in pool forums is hurtful to our industry

    18:20 - Give the customer the service you would want if you were the customer

    26:25 - Customers buy things online and ask service pros to install it

    32:45 - Respect must flow both ways in a service relationship with a customer.

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    44 min
  • How to Fix 3 Types of Green Pools

    00:00 - Intro

    01:31 - Green water from calcium/alkalinity imbalance. Add calcium.

    03:08 - Copper. Figure out where the copper is coming from (and stop it), then remove copper.

    04:51 - SC-1000 is not a stain or metal remover. It is a chelating agent that needs to be used in conjunction with a citric/ascorbic acid and a metal filter/remover.

    07:17 - Algae. Chlorine (HOCl) is the best algaecide. Orenda does NOT make any algaecides.

    14:20 - Remove debris from a green pool, because piles underwater can protect algae from chlorine.

    18:45 - Liquid chlorine is the preferred chlorine method for green pool cleanups.

    19:46 - Reminder: never mix different types of chlorine!

    23:25 - Green pool cleanup process (in order): remove debris. Netting, brushing, vacuuming. Super-chlorinate, add PR-10,000, then CV-600 or CV-700 enzymes.

    26:21 - When do we add enzymes? Some add them same day, some add the next day. Both seem to work.

    31:00 - Recap: first, figure out why your pool is green. It may not be algae.

    33:23 - Thank you for listening!

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    36 min
  • Why is My Pool Green?

    00:00 - Intro

    01:43 - This pool wasn't an opaque green, it was translucent, tinging green.

    02:09 - We know of at least three reasons pools turn green.

    03:11 - We could safely rule out copper for this customer.

    03:43 - Jarred is a popular guy (phone rings).

    04:50 - The next day, the water was perfectly clear and blue, by increasing calcium relative to alkalinity.

    05:48 - We don't know why, but if you have too little calcium hardness relative to alkalinity, the water can turn green (but clear).

    06:18 - Dr. McNamara: Optimal ratio to inject CO2 is 4:1 (calcium to total alkalinity). If you're under 3:1, water can start to tinge green.

    10:43 - The white bucket test (add chlorine to green water and observe color change)

    18:08 - If you have algae taking over your pool, your algae is outpacing the killing rate of chlorine.

    19:12 - Control what you can control. CYA and chlorine, phosphate levels (indirect relationship, but important). What really matters is your free chlorine and CYA.

    24:00 - Wrapping up with two more topics:  CO2 feeders and Potassium Monopersulfate. Both can fuel algae growth.

    27:21 - Summary: pool can turn green for three reasons: copper, calcium/alkalinity imbalance, algae.

    27:55 - Thank you for listening!

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    29 min
  • Pillar 4: Minimal Cyanuric Acid (CYA) | Orenda's Four Pillars

    00:00 - Intro

    01:19 - What is CYA and why do we use it?

    04:54 - Hot temperatures do NOT mean you need more CYA. Temp has nothing to do with sunlight protection and CYA. But chlorine does get used up faster because it works better.

    10:52 - You do not need a lower pH to have strong chlorine (%HOCl) when you have CYA in your water.

    12:00 - Percentages of HOCl without CYA are pH-dependent. With CYA, that no longer applies.

    15:57 - Overstabilization = too much CYA relative to Chlorine

    19:39 - Oversabilization is an accumulation problem, usually from stabilized chlorines Trichlor and Dichlor.

    19:59 - One pound of trichlor in 10,000 gallons of water adds 6-6.5 ppm of CYA. It adds up quickly.

    23:30 - How often should we be testing for CYA?

    26:36 - Enroll in Orenda Academy™ for more information

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    29 min
  • Pillar 3: Phosphate Removal | Orenda's Four Pillars

    00:00 - Intro

    01:21 - Why do we need to remove phosphates? Do they really matter?

    03:59 - What do phosphate test kits actually measure? 

    04:40 - What are phosphates? And what variations of phosphates are there?

    06:25 - Why are there phosphates in our drinking water? 

    09:34 - Environment and bathers

    11:03 - Most metal sequestering agents are phosphate-based

    14:32  - Time your phosphate removal treatments appropriately

    15:59 - You don't need a lot of phosphate remover. Or you could just throw a lot more chlorine at the problem if you ignore them.

    16:18 - Growth/reproduction rate vs. killing rate of sanitizer(s)

    16:46 - Phosphates will be within algae's cell walls. You may test low, but phosphates are present if you see algae.

    19:09 - Thank you for listening!

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    19 min
  • Pillar 3: Phosphate Removal | Orenda's Four Pillars
    Let's talk about phosphates, and why you should remove them from your water. Phosphates cannot be oxidized by chlorine, and they accumulate over time. Phosphates get into our pools via the tap water, sequestering agents, and nature. They accumulate over time. Remove phosphates and keep your level below 500 parts per billion (ppb).
    21 min

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Rule Your Pool is a podcast by Orenda Technologies. This show was created for pool owners, operators, and service pros who want the best water quality possible. If you want to know what's really going…

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