Two amazing guests today. Two important conversations related to community and development.

First, we speak to Sam Lightner Jr. about the latest threats to climbing access in America. Sam is a prolific route developer, who is perhaps best known for developing the climbing in Southern Thailand and helping turn Railey and Tonsai beaches into the destinations they are. But he’s also established many routes in the American west, and done the heroic work of replacing hundreds of anchor bolts under the American Safe Climbing Association. He was also one of the first board members on the Access Fund, and has continued to advocate for climbing access in America. We break down the latest attempt from extremist “wilderness” advocacy groups to cynically use the language of the Wilderness Act to prevent climbers from legally climbing in wilderness areas located in National Parks and Forest Service lands.

Our main guest is Genevieve Walker, a professional climber and climbing guide who is working to promote greater access and representation for underrepresented groups in the outdoors. Her recent expedition to Malawi worked to develop and empower the local climbing community. Her trip reframes how we traditionally think of a “climbing expeditions,” centering a community-oriented approach to empowerment over sick sends.

Last but not least, our final bit comes from Colorado climber Kyle Ward with his latest EP and the eponymous song Get Goin’.

Show Notes

Access Fund: Action Alert: Stop the Bolt Prohibition

Submit a comment to the NPS

Submit a comment to the USFS

Follow Sam Lightner Jr. on Instagram

Read: “Breaking the Wilderness Bell Jar” on Evening Sends

Follow Genevieve Walker on Instagram

Follow Climb Malawi on Instagram

Follow The Global Climbing Initiative on Instagram

Is Rock Climbing the Future of Tourism in Malawi?

Follow Kyle Ward on Instagram

Listen to Get Goin’ on Spotify

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