Are you listening to The RunOut or TMZ? It may be hard to tell as we catch up on the latest celebrity gossip: weddings, babies, and who we are wearing this season.

Next, we are joined by Dorian Evers, a climber and couples therapist from Boulder, to talk about some of the typical red flags and relationship disfunction that she sees across the climbing world, beginning with how relationships are portrayed in films.

Finally, we’re stoked to share a folksy bluegrass band from California, One Grass Two Grass. Their song She Sings is from their latest album All Storms Pass. (The band’s bassist, Sam Trimboli, is a solid rock climber and surfer.)

Adrian Ballinger and Emily Harrington wedding in NYT, ABC News, and SF Chronicle

Akiyo Noguchi and Tomoa Narasaki’s wedding announcement

Dorian Evers: Cultivate Growth Therapy

One Grass Two Grass homepage and Instagram

All Storms Pass on Spotify

Sam Trimboli on Instagram

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