Ruth Jones joins Gaby Roslin for a chat about bringing people joy through her characters and writing - and - the things that make her smile.

Ruth is known for co-creating Gavin & Stacey, and playing the iconic character of Nessa, as well as Fat Friends, Stella and several novels along the way too. She chats to Gaby about how much her stories and characters have meant to her, and others, and how now - as she approaches 60 - she's taking a different approach to life.