A number of TWs - addiction, depression, overdosing, self-administering medications. We are two middle-aged tired, lumpy and bumpy idiots - everything in this podcast is not medical advice.

Kayte celebrates turning 53 by behaving like a ray of sunshine so bright it is almost beyond comprehension while Kim, 53 for seven months longer than Kayte, embodies her true gremlin of sadness, despair, and maudlin thoughts. It's good times.

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