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In this episode Evy and Robbie interview Geraldine Starke, founder of Refarm'd. Refarm'd is an organisation devoted to helping farmers transition their businesses from the production of cow's milk to producing plant-based milks and convert their farmland to animal sanctuaries. Having already piloted their scheme with a number of ex-dairy farmers, including Katja & Jay Wilde, whose story was covered in the 2018 documentary 73 Cows, Geraldine joins us to talk about how Refarm'd is disrupting the dairy industry and what is next for the organisation.

Also in this episode…

• Geraldine speculates on the limitations within the current model of animal sanctuaries and explains why dairy farms are perfectly equipped to become animal sanctuaries.
• "There is really a war between farmers and vegans" - Geraldine talks about wanting to heal the animosity between the farming and animal rights' communities and how she intends to help farmers and animals with one organisation.
• "Finally, we're helping the farmers. The future is with them, not against them" - Geraldine describes the reaction of vegans to the work of Refarm'd.
• Geraldine tells us all about the Refarm'd model for helping farmers transition from dairy production to plant milk production - and why they only work with farmers who commit to keeping all of their animals.
• How profitable is producing oat milk vs dairy milk.
• How you can patronise and support the farmers new oat milk businesses!
• "We want to create a whole network around Refarm'd where we can connect farmers with other experts." - Geraldine shares her vision for the future of Refarm'd, a system that is local, sustainable and ethical.
• Stay tuned for some listener emails and an important season 3 announcement!

Links:

Refarm'd Website

Refarm'd Instagram

Documentary 73 Cows on Vimeo

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