Bruce Alderman, Layman Pascal, & Gregg Henriques continue their trialogue on the meaning and promise of a sacred or sophianic naturalism for our time.  In this second episode, they reflect on the relevance of insights from "The Elusive I" & "An 'I' for an Elusive I" discussions for this project, and the relation of John Vervaeke's and Gregg's models to evolutionary spirituality; the meaning and significance of 'sacred' in sacred naturalism; the notion of sacred materialism or 'matarealism'; Gregg's justification systems theory and Kierkegaardian or Zen trans-justificatory stages of development; the importance and nature of centauric development, and the contrast of the centaur (or satyr) and the minotaur; guidelines for a sacred naturalist education; and much more.