Hal Brands, the Henry A. Kissinger Distinguished Professor of Global Affairs at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies, joins the show to discuss the Cold War's lessons for great-power rivalry today.
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01:24 - Introduction02:47 - Halford Mackinder and how Eurasian geopolitics framed the Cold War05:37 - Mackinder's theory of the heartland07:47 - China's Belt and Road Initiative as an application of Mackinder's theory09:07 - Comparing the United States' approaches to the USSR and China13:04 - Nuclear power during the Cold War17:24 - How Cold War-era nuclear logic applies today21:02 - No first use policy26:56 - The Nixon administration's critique of containment strategy29:58 - The collapse of the Soviet Union32:15 - Theories of victory that led to the Vietnam War35:08 - End of the Cold War39:17 - Infrastructure needed to fight the Soviets in the United States, and what the U.S. needs to take on China today44:02 - China's moves to decouple economically from the United States46:47 - The United States' harrowing responsibility to take on adversarial powers