Self Storage Lab

Self Storage Lab

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Self Storage Lab episodes

  • Decision-making framework & tech adoption with Atomic Storage Group

    In this episode, Rick Beal and Magen Smith, co-founders of Atomic Storage Group, share their journey of rapidly scaling their company to manage over 90 facilities across 20 states since its inception in 2019. They discuss their backgrounds, challenges faced, and how they successfully balance technology and the human touch in operations. The conversation delves into their hiring strategies, the importance of educational marketing, and the future trends in self storage, including technology adoption, the rise of hybrid management models, and the significance of keeping operations streamlined and efficient.


    In this episode, we discussed:

    (01:33) The Origin Story of Atomic Storage

    (02:57) Early Challenges and Growth

    (03:50) Out-of-the-box Management Strategies

    (05:57) Technology and Trends in Self Storage

    (11:32) Balancing Efficiency and Personalization

    (17:39) Remote Work and Company Culture

    (20:18) Client Relationships and Decision Making

    (29:51) Generational Preferences

    (30:53) Tech Integration in Retail

    (32:14) The Fred Factor: Simplifying Tech

    (33:56) Hiring Strategies and Common Sense

    (40:31) Trends and Innovations in Self Storage

    (45:41) Market Expansion and Organic Growth

    (52:20) Rapid Fire: Ranking Tech Importance


    We mentioned

    The Fred Factor

    57 min
  • The Modern FMS with Cubby CEO Matt Engfer

    In this episode, the first vendor guest, Matt Engfer, CEO and co-founder of Cubby, discusses how his company is transforming the self-storage industry with modern facility management software. Matt shares his journey from various industries—retail, life insurance, martech—and how these experiences influence his approach in self-storage. The conversation explores critical topics like revenue management, future tech landscapes, and the importance of having a product-led company. The discussion delves into practical strategies for pricing, the value of customer feedback, and the nuances of effective marketing in a need-based industry.

    In this episode, we discussed:

    00:30 Matt Engfer's Journey to Self Storage

    01:19 The Inspiration Behind Cubby

    02:56 Challenges in the Self Storage Industry

    05:07 Matt's Background and Early Career

    10:10 Lessons from Marketing and Tech

    27:04 Building a Successful Software Company

    32:26 Challenges and Opportunities in Self-Storage Tech

    33:02 Exploring White Space in Self-Storage

    36:45 Revenue Management Strategies

    47:39 Marketing's Impact on Revenue

    54:30 Customer-Centric Product Development


    If you haven’t already, go download the second edition of our industry report:The State of Technology in Self Storage. We cover a ton of data points focused on how operators should think about putting The Modern Customer at the center of their universe.

    1 hr 5 min
  • Using Technology to Reduce Expenses w/ Raheem Amer

    Today’s episode zeroes in on using technology to slash expenses and redefine the role of the manager. We'll discuss everything from the latest tech innovations to old tech and DIY budget-friendly solutions that have stood the test of time. Plus, we'll dive into effective ways to incentivize managers in this evolving tech landscape.


    Joining us is Raheem Amer, President at MyPlace Self Storage. With a rich background that includes roles such as president of Mini Mall Storage Properties and senior positions at Devon Self Storage and Extra Space Storage, Raheem brings a wealth of knowledge in operations, acquisition, go-to-market strategy, and revenue management. Today, he'll share his insights on leveraging technology to enhance efficiency and managerial effectiveness.


    Mentioned

    • RaFa
    • Davinci
    • CIA Access System
    • Drones
    • 58 min
    • Third Party Marketing Strategies w/ Melissa Stiles of SAM

      In this episode of the Self Storage Lab, the focus is on third-party management with a special emphasis on branding and marketing strategies. Melissa Stiles, Chief Marketing Officer at Storage Asset Management (SAM), joins the discussion to share her extensive experience and insights. Key topics include grassroots marketing, reputation management, word-of-mouth referrals, and digital marketing techniques. Melissa also elaborates on the role of influencers, the use of AI in marketing, and how to stay updated with evolving marketing tools. Additionally, Melissa talks about the importance of community-based strategies and handling reviews to enhance brand presence and customer experience.


      Mentioned in this Episode

      • 01:01 Melissa's Background and Unique Skills
      • 03:44 Diving into Self Storage Marketing
      • 05:07 Core Principles of Successful Marketing
      • 07:34 Brand Awareness and Grassroots Marketing
      • 14:42 Influencer Marketing in Self Storage (youtube, tiktok, instagram)
      • 24:13 Data-Driven Marketing Decisions
      • 31:12 Leveraging Local Relationships for Marketing
      • 32:11 Exploring Geofencing and Micro-Influencer Strategies
      • 33:54 Brand Differentiation and Hyperlocal Focus
      • 39:05 Reputation Management and Review Strategies
      • 47:14 Integrating AI in Business Operations
      • 1 hr
      • Remote Management and Kiosk Tech w/ Go Store It

        Welcome to the Self Storage Lab — where we deconstruct how operators are adapting to today’s technology-driven landscape and how it might impact your business.

        In episode 22 of the Self Storage Lab, the team sheds light on how self-storage operators are adapting to the latest in tech. From the latest in kiosk technology to advanced unattended systems, they dive into insights on how operators can make their implementation in manned and unmanned setups work.

        Getting nerdy with us today is Beau Agnello, Chief Operating Officer at Go Store It. Beau brings a rich background from his roles at National Storage and Extra Space Storage, where he contributed to product innovation and managed a significant portfolio. Beau emphasizes the importance of enhancing customer experience through technology and shares the data-driven approach Go Store It employs to remain competitive. The conversation also explores the evolution of staff roles, remote management strategies, and lessons learned in integrating new technologies for a consistently excellent customer journey.


        Mentioned in this episode

        00:23 - Meet Beau Agnello

        01:10 - Exploring Remote Management Technology

        02:28 - The Evolution of Self-Service Kiosks

        04:40 - Customer Journey: Attended vs. Unattended

        05:09 - Reframing the Purpose of Kiosks

        06:46 - Enhancing Customer Experience with Technology

        12:59 - Virtual Management and Security

        19:21 - Specializing Roles for Efficiency

        22:06 - Data-Driven Insights and Customer Behavior

        32:44 - Impact on Business Metrics and Valuation

        36:36 - Balancing Cost and Customer Experience

        38:25 - Implementing Kiosk Technology: Lessons Learned

        39:57 - Understanding Customer Behavior

        43:31 - Key Features for Kiosk Solutions

        45:19 - Educating Your Team and Customers

        49:35 - Exploring Other Technologies

        51:28 - Innovations in Other Industries

        59:05 - Final Thoughts and Future Directions

        1 hr 3 min
      • Week in AI: Mishaps, Google Search, Multi-Modal, Hardware Devices

        Welcome to the Self Storage Lab — where we deconstruct how operators are adapting to today’s technology-driven landscape and how it might impact your business.


        In episode 21 of the Self Storage Lab, we’re diving back into the world of AI with all of the recent buzz over the last week. We review key announcements from the Google I.O. conference, including AI overviews in search, and OpenAI's new product developments. The discussion covers how these advancements might affect search behaviors, content strategies, and digital marketing, especially for businesses dependent on web traffic.


        The conversation extends to issues of accuracy and potential disruptions in organic search rankings, exploring the broader impact on operations, security, and customer interactions within the self-storage sector.


        Mentioned in this episode:


        • 00:34 Google's AI Overview: A Game Changer?
        • 01:48 Impact on Content Strategies and SEO
        • 02:26 User Experience and Competitor Analysis
        • 04:59 Google's Experimentation and Future Directions
        • 08:01 Monetization Challenges and Global Search Trends
        • 11:10 Adapting Content for AI-Driven Search
        • 20:32 The Role of Thought Leadership and Social Media
        • 27:55 Brand Equity in Self Storage
        • 28:35 Newsletter Announcement
        • 29:01 AI Hallucinations and Accuracy
        • 30:54 The Future of Search and AI
        • 35:12 AI Hardware Innovations
        • 36:43 Wearable AI Devices
        • 40:41 AI in Photography and Self Storage
        • 49:41 AI Agents and Security Systems
        • 52:43 Rapid Fire AI News
        • 59 min
        • Access Control: How SAM and Five Star Storage do it w/ Lynn Sykes & Eric Gardner

          Welcome to the Self Storage Lab — where we deconstruct how operators are adapting to today’s technology-driven landscape and how it might impact your business.


          This episode explores the critical transition from manual to automated access and security systems in the self-storage industry. It highlights the drive for automation prompted by competitive market dynamics and evolving consumer expectations, particularly from younger, tech-savvy customers.


          Guests Eric Gardner, Director of Marketing at Five Star Storage, and Lynn Sykes, Sr. Vice President of Operations at Storage Asset Management, discuss the benefits of sophisticated access and lock systems, including enhanced customer convenience and security, and the operational efficiencies these technologies offer. They delve into the importance of selecting compatible service partners, the impact of these systems on customer service and the staff experience, and the financial considerations of adopting new access control technologies.


          The conversation also touches on the need for thorough training and the integration of new technologies with existing systems to ensure seamless operations and enhanced customer satisfaction.


          Episode Guide

          01:14 Introduction and Personal Journeys

          04:17 Exploring Access Control: Definitions, Changes, and Customer Expectations

          05:36 Exploring Access Control Systems: From Manual Gates to State-of-the-Art Technology

          08:17 The Impact on the Customer and Staff Experience

          14:13 The Data-Driven Approach: Leveraging Insights for Strategic Decisions

          17:49 The Impact of COVID-19 on Access Patterns and Technology Adoption

          20:28 Remote Management and the Role of Technology in Customer Satisfaction

          22:49 Technology Adoption and Measuring ROI

          26:28 Budgeting for Technology Upgrades in Self Storage Facilities

          32:33 Exploring Customer Reviews and Shopping Habits

          33:20 The Importance of Customer Service and Service Partners

          35:50 Managing Remote and Hub-and-Spoke Locations

          38:39 Adopting AI and Security Technologies

          44:06 Innovative Access Control and Security Measures

          47:22 Marketing Strategies and Customer Communication

          53:36 Preparing for Technology Transitions and Upgrades

          57:58 Enhancing the Customer Experience

          1 hr 9 min
        • Part 3 - State of Technology: Conversational Trends

          Today’s episode will be the final episode on our special series covering our report on the State of Technology in Self Storage. We discuss our main takeaways from analyzing over 2 million customer conversations used to optimize day to day operations, and cover topics including patterns in customer inquiries, most frequently asked about unit size and amenities, and much more.

          If you haven’t already, go download the second edition of our industry report directly on our website We cover a ton of data points focused on how operators should think about putting The Modern Customer at the center of their universe.


          Mentioned in this episode


          Understanding Customer Inquiries: Service vs. Sales

          Our analysis revealed distinct patterns in customer interactions, primarily divided into service-related and sales-related conversations.

          • Service dominates: Approximately 70% of inquiries are service-related, highlighting the need for efficient account management and payment systems.
          • Sales opportunities: The remaining conversations focus on unit availability and amenities, signaling strong sales leads.

          • Operational Efficiencies Through Automation

            Automated systems are proving to be a game-changer in managing routine tasks, significantly reducing the operational burden on staff.

            • Automating routine tasks: Solutions like bill payments and account updates through automation help streamline operations.
            • Enhanced customer service: Automation not only saves time but also ensures consistent, high-quality customer interactions.

            • Trends in Customer Behavior

              Our analysis unearthed interesting trends regarding customer preferences and behaviors, which can inform targeted marketing and service offerings.

              • Short-term storage needs: A noticeable shift towards shorter rental periods, with many customers inquiring about monthly or even weekly rentals.
              • After-hours inquiries: A significant volume of messages arrive outside traditional business hours, suggesting the importance of 24/7 customer service options.

              • The Rise of Digital Communication

                Digital channels are becoming the preferred method for customer interactions, offering opportunities for real-time engagement and support.

                • Preferred communication channels: Customers are increasingly choosing text messages, web chat, and other digital platforms over phone calls.
                • Channel effectiveness: Analyzing which digital channels lead to higher conversion rates or more efficient resolution of service issues.

                • Seasonal Variations and Customer Needs

                  Our data also highlighted seasonal patterns in customer inquiries, which can help operators anticipate fluctuations and adjust their strategies accordingly.

                  • Seasonality in self-storage: Insights into how customer needs vary by season, informing inventory management and promotional activities.
                  • After-hours engagement: A significant volume of conversations occurs outside of traditional business hours, suggesting the need for around-the-clock support options.

                  • Looking Ahead: Personalization and Precision

                    The future of self-storage lies in leveraging data to offer personalized experiences and optimize operations based on precise customer insights.

                    • Granular data analysis: The potential to break down data by location or specific customer segments for targeted improvements.
                    • Innovative communication strategies: Exploring new channels and technologies to enhance customer engagement and satisfaction.

                    • As the self-storage industry continues to navigate a technology-driven landscape, understanding and adapting to customer needs through data analysis will be key to staying competitive and delivering exceptional service. Our findings underscore the critical role of automation, digital communication, and personalization in shaping the future of self-storage operations.

                      37 min
                    • Part 2 - State of Technology: Understanding Technology Trends

                      Hoping to stand out in this competitive landscape and focus inwardly on improving operational efficiency, operators are looking to the integration of innovative technology and the inclusion of customer-centric amenities within their facilities.

                      Today’s episode will be part 2 of 3, where we'll touch on the state of technology being utilized today throughout the industry. We start by breaking down the different tools available to operators, big and small, to help run their day-to day, plus how automaton can make you a better operator.

                      Mentioned in this episode:

                      Intro to Technology

                      We asked ourselves the following questions.

                      • What issues were operators trying to solve this year? / What was top of mind this year?
                      • What to look forward in the coming year?

                      • Online Presence Breakdown

                        The rise of digital marketing has created different touch-points for customers to engage with your brand. Prospects are now further down the marketing funnel when they eventually talk to your store team. They will have already visited your website, read some reviews, and perhaps browsed through your rates. You have to ensure you can service prospects and tenants wherever they are.  


                        Back of Office Breakdown

                        The back of office tech stack is the core of running and operating your self storage operations. These tools help an operator easily manage, monitor, and run their stores and their teams. These directly impact operations, revenue, and tenant management and support measures.


                        Facility Operations Breakdown

                        Over the last year there’s been a big push on this front. We’ve seen a lot of good stuff at trade shows related to state of the art hardware and software tools. These tools are helping operators streamline facility operations by helping to reduce operating costs and drive a renewed focus on their IN-STORE customer experience.


                        If you haven’t already, go download the second edition of our industry report “The State of Technology in Self Storage”. We cover a ton of data points focused on how operators should think about putting The Modern Customer at the center of their universe.


                        We also unpack over 2 million conversations with customers in the past year. We think you’ll really like it.


                        Stay tuned for Part III where we explore the entirety of swivl’s conversational data trends and how AI is impacting Self Storage today.

                        1 hr 3 min
                      • Part I - State of Technology: Uncovering Customer Trends

                        Consumer behavior has changed and operators need to rapidly adopt technology to stay current in today's economic landscape. Just last week, we put the final touches to our newest edition of the State of Technology in Self Storage. Building off of two years of data and a mass surge towards AI-driven experiences, the report highlights unique insights to showcase how new technologies are affecting the industry.


                        This special series will be divided into three episodes, going over the main sections of the report:

                        1. The Trends our data showed us about the average self storage operator and customer
                        2. The key business areas that will be impacted by AI and new technologies.
                        3. And, the main takeaways from over 2 million customer conversations used to optimize business operations.
                        4. Today’s episode will be part 1 of 3, where we will explore the trends we uncovered from our data and, how operators are adapting to what we call, the Modern Customer.


                          Mentioned in this episode:


                          A Year in Review

                          • Recognition of the challenging past 12 months affecting various industries
                          • Tight budgets and cautious spending in response to economic challenges
                          • Changing consumer behavior and the need for rapid adoption of technology

                          • Trend 1: Efficiency Matters

                            • Learn how operators are reassessing their operational stack, optimizing teams, tools, and data to enhance the customer journey's
                            • Addressing organizational bloat and improving overall journey for customers
                            • Emphasis on intelligent automation and resource optimization

                            • Trend 2: Conversations as Meaningful Experiences

                              • Prioritizing customer experience for immediate engagement
                              • The significance of two-way conversations, cross-channel interactions, and deeper customer insights
                              • Empowering customers and creating personal connections

                              • Trend 3: Augmented Intelligence

                                • How are operators leveraging augmented intelligence today
                                • Moving toward a data-driven culture and utilizing machine-generated insights
                                • The focus on workforce evolution and the benefits of an augmented approach

                                • Trend 4: Breaking Silos

                                  • Importance of breaking organizational, data, and mentality silos
                                  • Embracing team sharing and access to diverse data sources
                                  • Overcoming challenges of fragmented customer experiences and duplicated efforts

                                  • Common Thread: The Modern Customer

                                    • Placing the customer at the center of business decisions
                                    • Catering to the expectations of the modern customer
                                    • Addressing generational demand and preferences
                                    • The significance of seamless and convenient access to physical facilities

                                    • Stay tuned for Part II where we explore the technology and customer-centric amenities that operators are investing in to stay competitive.


                                      36 min

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