The Mind Change Podcast

Self Work vs. Practitioner Work: Unlocking True Healing


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In this episode, Heather McKean, Kent McKean, and McKenzie Brewster break down the difference between conscious and subconscious healing, the pitfalls of surface-level self-help, and why many healing modalities fall short. Heather shares her journey from chronic illness to radical transformation and how Mind Change provides a unique, neuroscience-backed approach to deep, lasting breakthroughs. Whether you’re stuck in cycles of therapy, self-help, or mindset work, this episode will shift your perspective on what it really takes to change your life.


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What we covered in this episode:

💭 Conscious vs. Subconscious Healing – True transformation happens at the subconscious level, not just through mindset shifts.

🧠 Neuroscience of Healing – The brain stores trauma and patterns, making subconscious rewiring key for lasting change.

🌀 Why Some Modalities Fail – EFT, NLP, and EMDR work for some, but often don’t address the root cause.

🤯 Limits of Self-Work – Some subconscious programs are too deep to access alone—a practitioner helps break through.

🔄 Healing Plateaus – People get stuck because their subconscious believes their issues are “needed” for survival.

🏗️ Symptoms vs. Root Causes – Managing symptoms isn’t enough—true healing rewires the brain’s core programming.

💡 The “Neuroscience Coaching” Trap – Many self-help courses misuse neuroscience—real change requires deeper knowledge.

🌊 Healing as an Ocean – Self-work dips your toes in; practitioner sessions fully immerse you for deeper shifts.

⏳ Why Healing Takes Time – Rewiring the brain isn’t a quick fix—it’s about creating new patterns.

🛠️ Mind Change: A True Healing System – It combines neuroscience, subconscious rewiring, and body-based work for real transformation.


Get in touch with Heather and Kent: 

Web: https://www.mindchange.com/our-story 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindchange/?hl=en 

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/MindChange 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindchange



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