She Wasn't Born Yesterday

About the Guest:

Meet Fleur Marks, the mindset coach helping leaders ditch burnout for breakthrough results. After spending over a decade in high-pressure advertising environments, Fleur made a life-changing pivot when her own health took a hit from the relentless overachiever lifestyle.

Now she's the go-to expert for leaders who want success without sacrificing their sanity. Fleur runs transformative training programs across industries and she's putting her hard-won wisdom into her upcoming book, "The Overachiever Reset." This conversation explores finding balance, redefining success, and why sustainable leadership starts with getting your mindset right.

Key Takeaways:

• Leadership involves not only guiding a team but also managing personal well-being to lead effectively and sustainably.
• Fleur Marks' pivot from advertising to coaching was driven by her health challenges and desire to create a lasting impact in leadership culture.
• The significance of building a personal support network, including therapists, coaches, and mentors, can enhance personal and professional growth.
• Understanding personal motivations and re-evaluating what defines success can lead to a more fulfilling career and life.
• Women's leadership programs address unique challenges for women in leadership roles, highlighting the need for balance and assertiveness in managing demands.

Notable Quotes:

1. "You have to be self full to be selfless." — Fleur Marks
2. "If your mindset as a leader is in a good place, you're a much better leader." — Fleur Marks
3. "You get 4,000 weeks in your life, and how are you using them?" — Fleur Marks
4. "I just started being enough and found comfort in knowing I was this wild person." — Fleur Marks
5. "It's more about impact. While I can." — Fleur Marks

Resources:

• Visit Fleur Marks' Website for more information on her coaching programs and upcoming book.
• Follow Fleur on LinkedIn and Instagram for updates on her work and thought leadership.

 

She Wasn’t Born Yesterday, hosted by Janet Evans, a senior advertising creative and Jenni Woodhouse a semi retired social worker

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About the Guest:

Dr. Jenny Brown is a highly respected clinical couple and family therapist with over 35 years of experience, specializing in family systems theory. She holds a PhD in social science and has dedicated her career to helping individuals navigate complex family dynamics. Dr. Brown is also an accomplished author and a key figure at the Family Systems Institute, where she contributes to training mental health professionals. Her work focuses on applying scientific theory to real-world relationship challenges, particularly emphasizing self-differentiation and emotional maturity.

Key Takeaways:

• Self-Differentiation is Essential: Emphasizes the importance of focusing on personal growth and emotional maturity to improve relationships with parents.
• Curiosity Over Reactivity: Advocates for a curious rather than reactive approach to family dynamics, promoting understanding and empathy.
• Avoid Triangulation: Highlights the pitfalls of involving third parties unnecessarily, urging direct communication in resolving conflicts.
• The Impact of Labels: Warns against labeling family members as villains or saints, encouraging a more nuanced understanding of individual behaviors.
• The Role of Feedback: Stresses the importance of offering constructive feedback without criticizing, fostering healthier communication patterns.

Notable Quotes:

1. "Being a parent is like trying to stand up in a hammock without spilling your wine."
2. "If there's a lot of conflict with parents, it's probably a sign that there's a lot that isn't worked out."
3. "I will not give advice until I've heard the best advice that they have to give themselves."
4. "Even messy relationships are worth having the experience of dealing with them."
5. "We can't have three steps to the perfect relationship to achieve in one week."

Resources:

• Jenny Brown’s Books: Amazon
• Family Systems Institute: Information and resources on family systems theory.
• Family Systems Practice Website: Offers insights into familial relationship dynamics.
• Parent Hope Project: Dr. Brown's program focusing on improving parental approaches.

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About the Guest(s):

Anne Gately is an advertising professional, author, speaker, and an advocate for melanoma patients. She has survived stage four melanoma, beating the disease thanks to revolutionary treatment. With a background in advertising, Anne now uses her platform to raise awareness and drive cultural change regarding skin cancer in Australia. She is also the author of Sunburnt: A Memoir of Sun, Surf and Skin Cancer, where she shares her personal journey and challenges the societal norms surrounding sun exposure.

Professor Georgina Long, AO, was mentioned as the joint medical director at the Melanoma Institute Australia. Known for her pioneering work in melanoma research, she has significantly contributed to advancements in immunotherapy, which has saved many lives, including that of Dr. Richard Scollyer.

Episode Summary:

In this episode of "She Wasn't Born Yesterday," Janet Evans and Jenni Woodhouse host the remarkable Anne Gately, who survived stage four melanoma in just 97 days. This episode dives deep into Anne’s compelling journey from her initial diagnosis of skin cancer to her interactions with renowned medical professionals at the Melanoma Institute Australia. Anne generously shares the emotional and physical challenges she faced while undergoing treatment and stresses the importance of skin cancer awareness and sun protection, particularly in a culture that has long idolized tanning.

Amidst discussions of skin cancer prevention and treatment advancements, Anne shines a light on the vital work of Professor Georgina Long at the Melanoma Institute Australia. This episode is a call to redefine cultural attitudes towards sun exposure and highlights the pivotal role of immunotherapy in saving lives. The conversation navigates through Anne's personal revelations, her advocacy efforts, and her mission to effect change within Australian society. Key insights include the importance of knowing your skin, understanding the cultural impacts of sun exposure, and the need for systemic change in attitudes towards tanning.

Key Takeaways:

• Anne Gately's incredible journey of defeating stage four melanoma underscores the transformative impact of immunotherapy.
• Cultural attitudes towards tanning and sun exposure need a significant shift to prevent harmful consequences like skin cancer.
• Skin cancer prevention is a lifelong commitment, emphasizing the importance of sun protection from an early age.
• The work of Professor Georgina Long and her team at the Melanoma Institute Australia is crucial in advancing skin cancer treatment and saving lives.
• Systemic changes in advertising norms and sports policies are necessary to change the narrative around sun exposure in Australia.

Notable Quotes:

• "Melanoma is preventable. I felt a lot of shame attached to being diagnosed with melanoma." - Anne Gately
• "Even at 40 plus fabulous, it's never too late to protect our skin from the Aussie sun." - Janet Evans
• "You can't reverse the damage that you've done… but you can make it worse." - Anne Gately
• "If you have a pain that wakes you up in the middle of the night… that's something that should be checked out." - Anne Gately
• "We need to bring about cultural change in order to have huge change in this issue." - Anne Gately

Resources:

• Book: Sunburnt: A Memoir of Sun, Surf and Skin Cancer
• Melanoma Institute Australia: melanoma.org.au

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Join Janet Evans and Jenny Woodhouse on She Wasn't Born Yesterday as they unpack how to find the right psychologist and what to expect from therapy. They explore different therapy styles, the importance of compatibility, and navigating personal biases. 

Key Takeaways:

• The Importance of Compatibility: Finding the right psychologist involves more than credentials; the therapist-patient relationship is crucial for successful outcomes.
• Diverse Therapeutic Approaches: Over 240 documented therapeutic methods exist, underscoring the diversity and complexity in psychological care.
• Ethics and Influence: Psychologists hold significant influence and power, with a strict code of ethics guiding their practice to prevent potential harm.
• Labels in Psychology: Labels can be both beneficial and harmful, influencing diagnosis and the perception of mental health issues.
• Guidance to Seek Help: Visiting a General Practitioner (GP) can be an effective first step in finding the right mental health support and accessing mental health care plans.

Notable Quotes:

• "There's no psychology behind choosing the psychologist who's right for you." 
• "That relationship with the counselor is extremely important."
• "A diagnosis can be the most significant thing people have ever heard in their lives." 
• "If you're really not connecting, go somewhere else." 
• "Listen to those outside voices if people are encouraging you to do so.” 

 

She Wasn’t Born Yesterday, hosted by Janet Evans, a senior advertising creative and Jenni Woodhouse a semi retired social worker

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About the Guests:

Kathy and Ross Abraham are the founders of the Beautiful Crazy charity, which provides essential care packs to families experiencing the trauma of having a loved one in ICU. The charity was founded in memory of their son Jayden, who tragically passed away following an e-bike accident. They are dedicated to turning their personal grief into support and hope for other families facing similar situations. Their work has expanded to reach multiple hospitals across Australia, reinforcing their commitment to community support and engagement.

Key Takeaways:

• Turning Tragedy into Purpose: Kathy and Ross Abraham transformed the grief of losing their son Jayden into a charitable initiative aimed at aiding other families in similar situations through Beautiful Crazy.
• The Importance of Community Support: The episode highlights the significance of receiving support from unexpected places and how such gestures can inspire lasting positive change.
• Grief is a Continuous Journey: Kathy and Ross underline that grief does not have a set timeline and is a lifelong journey, impacting daily life and perspectives.
• Faith and Healing: Throughout the episode, the Abrahams share how their faith plays a crucial role in guiding them through their grief and in shaping the charity's mission.
• Extending Support Beyond Immediate Family: Ross and Kathy discuss how the loss of a loved one impacts extended circles, including friends and work colleagues, and the importance of nurturing these relationships.

Notable Quotes:

• "I've come to terms with myself that I'm always going to have a crazy mind…but you've got to admit I'm beautiful. I'm beautiful crazy, Mum." - Jayden Abraham
• "We made the decision to carry [grief] well. Beautiful Crazy is part of that; it brings hope and healing, not just for us as a family, but for others." - Kathy Abraham
• "When people find out why I was riding… it's amazing how many had lost children over the years. It's a space we’re in now, and we understand it." - Ross Abraham
• "Grief doesn't need to be healed. It's not looking to be fixed. It's part of our story." - Ross Abraham
• "For us, it was about making sure Jayden's legacy goes on. He loved community…it's us putting purpose to the pain." - Kathy Abraham

Resources:

• Beautiful Crazy Website: beautifulcrazy.org
• Beautiful Crazy Instagram: @beautifulcrazy_

 

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About the Guest:

Michele Ruyters is an Associate Dean of Criminology and Justice Studies at RMIT (Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology) and the founder and director of the Criminal Case Review Project. With a significant focus on wrongful convictions and miscarriages of justice, Michele has dedicated her career to the legal system, advocating for the innocent and examining the intricacies of criminal justice. Michele also set up the Bridge of Hope Innocence Initiative at RMIT, which scrutinizes miscarriages of justice by delving into cases from their origins and enlisting resources to factually establish innocence.

Key Takeaways:

• The presumption of innocence in criminal justice is often challenged by systemic limitations, human biases, and resource shortages.
• Wrongful convictions can stem from a variety of issues, such as withholding evidence, incorrect eyewitness accounts, and flawed defense strategies.
• Michele Ruyters's Innocence Initiative at RMIT goes beyond the courtroom to investigate the full scope of potential miscarriages of justice, aiming to factually prove innocence.
• High-profile cases like that of Kelly Lane highlight the impacts of media influence and gender biases on legal proceedings, challenging societal perceptions of justice.
• The legal appeals process is fraught with challenges that often make it difficult for wrongfully convicted individuals to achieve exoneration.

Notable Quotes:

• "After watching that documentary, I just realized that's what I want to do."
• "A mother involved… they think, okay, she took this the next step and accepted on that basis."
• "Our aim is to factually prove that the person is innocent."
• "It is never everything that is to be known about the case."
• "We have the good bare bones of a justice system, but there's not enough time and resources."

 

She Wasn’t Born Yesterday, hosted by Janet Evans, a senior advertising creative and Jenni Woodhouse a semi retired social worker

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Marshall Ballantine Jones is an expert in the field of digital safety and online behavior, with a deep focus on the influence of online content on adolescent development. He specializes in addressing the impacts of pornography and toxic online cultures on young people. Marshall is the CEO of Digi Help, a consultancy and publishing company working with schools to combat online threats and promote healthy digital engagement. Additionally, he runs the Resist Program, a ministry aimed at supporting individuals struggling with pornography addiction. Marshall is a prominent advocate for safer and more responsible online interactions, particularly among youth.

Key Takeaways:

• The manosphere comprises online communities emphasizing traditional masculinity, often countering modern feminism, while incel culture denotes those involuntarily celibate, often leading to bitterness and toxicity.
• Despite its portrayal in media like the series “Adolescence,” the incel group is tiny, representing about 0.02% of the male population, yet it garners disproportionate attention due to its extreme ideologies.
• Parents play a crucial role in influencing their children’s online behavior by engaging in open dialogues, setting clear digital boundaries, and closely monitoring their teens' peer interactions.
• Pornography remains a central and underestimated influence on teens, often more impactful than fringe online communities due to its pervasive and desensitizing nature.
• Figures like Andrew Tate influence young males by marrying misogynistic entertainment with financial gain, pointing out the need for widely accessible positive role models for impressionable youth.

Notable Quotes:

• "The manosphere is a broad description of online communities that emphasize traditional masculinity and have a reaction against modern feminism."
• "Most teenage boys won't be in the incel culture and influenced by Andrew Tate, but they are likely to be influenced by Andrew Tate apart from that."
• "The power of parents’ frequent communication with their kids cannot be underestimated. It is key to developing emotionally stable children with healthier social behaviors."
• "The majority of adolescents who develop serious personality disorders… often have some major childhood trauma."
• "You need to know your kids' friends and especially their families because they'll set the standards and culture for what becomes normal."

Resources:

• Digi Help
• Resist Program

 

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She Wasn’t Born Yesterday, hosted by Janet Evans, a senior advertising creative and Jenni Woodhouse a semi retired social worker

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Julie Goodwin is a celebrated Australian chef, TV presenter, author and the very first winner of MasterChef Australia back in 2009. Known for her engaging personality and culinary expertise, Julie has successfully hosted television programs, runs a cooking school, and authored several cookbooks. Her memoir, Your Time Starts Now, offers an intimate look into her life's challenges, including her struggles with mental health. Nowadays, in addition to her culinary endeavors, Julie is dedicated to mental health advocacy and community projects like Dinner Club, which aids juvenile detainees in developing essential life and cooking skills.

Key Takeaways:

• Julie Goodwin is using her culinary skills to transform young lives through her Dinner Club program.
• Emphasizing the power of communal meals, Julie is fighting against isolation in modern society by teaching teamwork and shared responsibilities.
• Julie opens up about her personal battles with mental health, urging listeners to seek help and recognize early red flags of stress and anxiety.
• The experience on MasterChef significantly influenced Julie's career, demonstrating how challenging environments can lead to personal growth.
• Setting boundaries and asking for help can be empowering, promoting a healthier balance between professional and personal life.

Notable Quotes:

1. "Isolation is one of the biggest problems that we're faced with in modern society."
2. "Shame dies in daylight."
3. "I need to set those boundaries and keep to them."
4. "We are more loved than we know."
5. "Sometimes that is the most delicious thing in life—it didn't take a single bit of effort."

Resources:

• Julie Goodwin's Memoir: Your Time Starts Now
• Julie Goodwin's Website: More information about her cooking school and community projects can be found here.

 

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No stranger to the poddie, Jenni Woodhouse joins us in the hot seat! She's got big shoes to fill (Dr. Amelia Haines, who has gone to do doctor-ey things!) but we think you'll love her, and she won't break a sweat jumping in this seat. 

Brand new series starts TOMORROW 3rd July 2025!!

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Dr. Amelia is leaving  *sad face* 

She's found new work and would be heading that way impacting the world beautifully with her wisdom and experience. 

Wishing you the very best, Amelia! We miss you and love you heaps! 

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