What happens when the future of humanity is no longer something we wait for but something we can choose?

When science gives us that kind of power, the real question becomes how wisely we’re prepared to use it. Today, Jonathan joins Julian to break down the fast-evolving world of embryo selection and what it could mean for the future of human evolution. Jonathan explains how IVF has grown from a niche medical procedure into a window into chromosomal health, genetic risk, and now polygenic traits that influence everything from disease risk to intelligence. They also revisit the history of eugenics, unpack the huge difference between past state-controlled abuses and today’s individual, non-coercive choices, and show why modern genomic tools aren’t about “playing God” but about making more informed, thoughtful decisions rooted in science.

What traits should families even care about? How do we keep individuality alive when selection becomes easier? And what happens when science, politics, and markets start overlapping in ways society isn’t quite prepared for? Julian and Jonathan dig into the complexity behind intelligence, personality, mental health, and moral behavior, while also touching on industry controversies, regulation challenges, and the importance of transparency in genetic prediction.

Jonathan Anomaly is a philosopher and researcher focused on the ethics of genetics, human enhancement, and emerging biotechnologies. He works at the intersection of science and philosophy, helping shape how genomic prediction and reproductive technologies are understood and responsibly used.

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What You’ll Learn

• What embryo selection is and how it differs from gene editing

• How IVF evolved and gained public acceptance

• Why heredity matters for reducing disease risk

• How polygenic scoring predicts health and traits

• How tech and society shape each other

• The risks and limits of gene editing

• What the future of reproductive tech may look like

  
  

⏱ Timestamps

00:00 Intro

00:00 What embryo selection really means

00:00 Why IVF and gene editing aren’t the same

09:31 How understanding heredity can shape better outcomes

14:42 The natural spread of human intelligence

22:19 Rethinking what it means to be human

26:00 The concept of iterated embryo selection

30:58 How technology and society evolve together

36:10 A different lens on world wars and human behavior

40:07 Choosing a child’s intelligence: what that actually involves

44:53 The health risks and limits of gene editing

52:33 Using AI with the right intentions for humanity’s future

55:43 The concerns surrounding Herasight

01:03:55 How future traits can be predicted in embryos

01:07:26 What the future of gene editing could look like

01:10:33 Why embryo choice matters for families

🎙 Hosted by Julian Issa

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