“Relationships healed, regrets revealed, and a future only Jackie could imagine.”

This is it—the FINAL Jackie Warner interview. In part two of Show Pony’s Workout series finale, Jackie goes deeper than ever before. She opens up about her regrets from Season 3, the truth about her relationships with the cast, and who she’s made peace with since the cameras stopped rolling. Jackie doesn’t shy away from Jillian Michaels, her philosophies on America’s health crisis, or the mistakes she’d change if she could go back. If you’ve ever wanted the unfiltered truth behind Bravo’s Workout, this is the seminal Jackie Warner conversation. Raw, honest, and nothing held back—this is the closure fans have waited years for. 👉 Hear Jackie Warner on: cast drama, reconciliations, Jillian Michaels, what she’d do differently, and what’s next.
👉 Hear John Arthur Hill reflect on wrapping a series that’s been years in the making. This isn’t goodbye forever—it’s goodbye for now. But for Bravo fans and Workout loyalists, this is the Jackie Warner interview you can’t miss.

I finally finished my full rewatch of Bravo’s Workout, and to close things out I sat down with Jackie Warner for one last exit interview. In Part One, Jackie opens up about Season 3, shares her regrets, and gives rare behind-the-scenes insight into Bravo. Part Two is coming soon with even more tea.

“Tony Awards, reality shows, and one unforgettable friendship—Marissa tells all.”

It’s a full-blown Hairspray Broadway reunion! Marissa Jaret Winokur joins John Hill for an unfiltered, hilarious, and surprisingly emotional episode of Show Pony. The Tony-winning original Tracy Turnblad and John have been ride-or-die since originating Hairspray on Broadway—and this conversation pulls back the curtain on everything from backstage chaos to real-life breakdowns (and breakthroughs). Marissa opens up about her time hosting Dance Your Ass Off, living in reality TV boot camps (The Biggest Loser, anyone?), and even making it to Dancing with the Stars. She and John dig deep into their early Hairspray days—before the Broadway lights—and get real about friendship, forgiveness, and pharmaceutical theft (yes, really). Plus, John gives you his signature solo Workout recap (Season 3, Episode 6).Whether you're a Broadway baby, a reality TV obsessive, or just here for the chaos of two musical theatre Broadway kids catching up, this one’s for you.

Jeff Lewis Live’s Doug Budin joins for a chaotic deep dive into childhood trauma, cancel-worthy costumes, Bravo drama, and life with Jeff Lewis. 

Doug Budin, the official chump of Jeff Lewis Live, joins for a completely unhinged episode filled with ADHD tangents, chaotic memories, and Bravo-grade mess. We talk about everything: Doug’s wild childhood, a violent incident in Sunday school, his first meeting with Jeff Lewis, and travel nightmares from hell (looking at you, LAX and Budapest). We expose a gay doctor’s unforgettable screw-up, fight over fragrances, and go deep into the politics of pillows—yes, both Doug’s and Craig Conover’s. Plus, Doug’s party altercations, a run-in with Tabatha Coffey, and his Halloween costumes that should’ve gotten him cancelled. Fans of Radio Andy and Jeff Lewis won’t want to miss this crossover.

Labor Day weekend, my laptop is waterlogged, and somehow this couch chat turned into one of the funniest Show Pony episodes yet. I sit down with Lauren Ashley Smith — TV writer, SiriusXM colleague, and all-around pop culture assassin — to break down Workout season three episode four, the Betty Who controversy, and my unhealthy hobby of trolling MAGA on Threads. We also get into the deeper stuff — gay rights, race, and how reality TV reflects (and distorts) all of it. Think of this episode as a peek behind the radioandy curtain with two friends on a couch enjoying a diet cherry coke. We get Lauren's take on early Bravo shows as well as an up to the minute list of all things you should be watching this week.

Danny Pellegrino turns Bravo commentary into life advice I didn’t expect.

Danny Pellegrino (Everything Iconic) joins me for a wide-ranging chat about all things Bravo, WORKOUT, Dad Life, and everything in between. Danny’s mix of humor and cultural insight makes him one of the sharpest voices covering reality TV, and our chat is equal parts hilarious and revealing. We break down WORKOUT Season 3, Episode 3 — Jackie Warner’s lesbian cruise, workplace hookups, and the mysterious disappearance of the mud run. Danny shares his obsession with lesbian drama, thoughts on Bravocon, and how gay representation on reality TV has evolved. But then he turns the tables on me. Danny asks about my dating life, my so-called uncle fetish, and why my audience deserves more of my authentic self. His advice about SHOW PONY is blunt, funny, and surprisingly inspiring — and I actually take it. If you love Bravo, reality TV, and conversations that go deeper than gossip, this one’s essential listening.

It’s a sunny Hollywood backyard chat with Too Niche? host and vintage Bravo expert Elizabeth Kott — the woman who convinced me to start Show Pony in the first place. Elizabeth worked with Rachel Zoe back in the day (yes, she shares what it was like to work for her), and she knows the Bravo era, LA culture, and reality TV from the inside out. This episode is a double-header:

• Workout Season 3, Episode 2 Recap – Jackie Warner, Sky Sport & Spa, and all the Bravo chaos of 2007.
• Netflix’s The Biggest Loser Documentary (“Fit for TV?”) – how reality TV mocked fat people and why cruelty passed as entertainment.

Plus, we get into the good stuff:

• I spill tea on producing Tori Spelling’s reality show and the behind-the-scenes of negotiating brand deals in reality TV.
• The disgusting state of LA’s The Grove — how it’s turned into a dystopian influencer catwalk where everyone dresses like a whore (thank you, social media).
• The toxic state of online culture and unattainable beauty standards that keep recycling from one era to the next.
• LA then vs. now: from Rachel Zoe’s fashion reign to Jackie Warner’s fitness empire to today’s influencer mess.

It’s Bravo nostalgia, reality TV industry secrets, and an unfiltered state-of-LA breakdown — all from the backyard, with iced drinks and plenty of shade.

S.U.P's Lara Marie Schoenhals and I unpack vintage Bravo mess, tats I got while high on pills, and our dogs wage squeaky toy warfare all in honor of Workout season 3! Show Pony tackles the Season 3 premiere of WORKOUT with a Sexy Unique Podcast crossover event: Lara Marie Schoenhals joins me to break down the vintage reality TV chaos of Workout Season 3 — and create some new drama of our own. We cover Jackie Warner’s new hair, her new girlfriend, and behind-the-scenes Bravo gossip you won’t hear anywhere else. I teach Lara about the politics of Fire Island Pines, I confess the worst tattoos I’ve ever gotten (thank you, prescription painkillers), and our dogs go feral in a squeaky toy showdown. It’s Bravo nostalgia, pop culture gossip, and unhinged storytelling — from the queen of Sexy Unique Podcast and the host of Show Pony. If you love Bravo reality shows, messy lesbian love stories, or chaotic podcast energy, this episode’s for you.

After last week’s confrontation with Andy Cohen, I found out the Workout reunion was available to stream after all. So this episode is me walking that back—recapping the reunion, eating shit, and trying to make it right. The original plan was to do this with Justin Martindale while we got a spray tan from Sugared and Bronzed. But he overslept, so I ended up doing the recap in my living room with the spray tan girlies. It ended up being the most fun segment ever… until I realized the mics didn’t record. So this one’s mostly narrated. I also meet up with my longtime best friend and reality TV producer Lindsay Weiglein on the roof of the mall to try and salvage what’s left—of the episode and of my credibility. Somewhere in the chaos, we end up spray tanning a Labubu.

It’s the Workout Season 2 finale recap... but things get messy real fast.
First, John corners Andy Cohen in New York after their SiriusXM show to ask about the missing reunion episode — and it turns into a heated moment caught on camera. Then back in LA, H. ALAN SCOTT (Newsweek, Parting Shot) joins for a deep dive into the finale, but the conversation quickly spirals into a glorious sideshow covering:

• public cruising in a West Hollywood park
• rich mean gays
• What is Sniffies
• John's Dick pics
• horrible dog owners
• a performance artist with pantyhose on her head rolling a giant ball of twine through the interview
• and a baby Labubu perched on H. Alan's lap through it all.

What starts as a recap becomes a performance piece. Welcome to Show Pony.