One of Workout’s original breakout stars, Jesse joins John for his first in-depth, on-the-record conversation about the show — and it’s not what anyone expected. John thought this would be a light, campy reunion. Instead? Tears were shed. Spiritual truths were dropped. And what unfolded was one of the most surprising, moving, and human interviews Show Pony has ever done. Jesse opens up about fatherhood, marriage, and how his time on Bravo shaped him — for better and worse. This isn’t just nostalgia. It’s transformation.

John grabs Jeff Lewis after their SiriusXM shift and locks him down for a long-overdue Show Pony sit-down. What was supposed to be a recap of Workout S1E4 becomes something better: a no-bullshit Bravo download with one of the few people who lived it in real time. Jeff talks early Bravo, Jackie Warner, what the network used to be, and how reality TV warps everything — including your relationships, sense of self, and yes, your spray tan technique. Casual. Off-the-cuff. Surprisingly deep. Definitely unplanned.

This episode of Show Pony was barely supposed to happen. I flew out of town for a wedding, missed my production window, had no guest, and decided to record the episode as soon as I landed—delirious at midnight—with Show Pony fave Eric Maxwell. What starts as a late-night mess spirals into gay chaos: relationship drama, Bravo memories, and yes, a live trial of a blowjob throat spray. Then things take a turn: I realize a real-life Bravo executive, Erica Forstadt, is also at the wedding. So I track her down, mic her up, and get a rare behind-the-scenes look at the network that gave us Workout, Top Chef, and everything in between. Unfiltered, unplanned, and deeply Show Pony.

After a whirlwind week of post-Jackie Warner interview fame, I escape into the shade of a WeHo park with one of my best friends and Fire Island housemate, Carey O'Donnell (SUP podcast), to regroup. In the shadow of SUR and the ghost of Sky Sport & Spa, we unpack Workout Season 2, Episode 2 while getting distracted by jacked strangers on the jungle gym. Topics include:

• Post-Bravo fame burnout
• The shifting sands of gay status symbols
• West Hollywood vs Fire Island energy
• And a deeply personal revelation involving Carey’s high school swim team

Let’s just say... this episode has a lot of heart—and eye candy

Jackie Warner. Bravo icon. Fitness pioneer. Reality TV legend. This is the conversation I never thought I’d get. After weeks of planning, last-minute chaos nearly derailed everything — first a parade ruined the audio, then Jackie got COVID, mercury was in retrograde and the mics we sent to Jackie refused to work. 
So I did what I had to: I mic’d my laptop speaker. And myself. What you’re about to hear is raw, imperfect, and completely real. We talk about Workout, fame, Jillian Michaels, her mother, Sky Sport & Spa, and the truth about where Jackie is now.
It’s not polished.
It’s not filtered.
But what she told me was better than I could have ever hoped. 
It’s Jackie Warner, finally speaking.

John Hill swore he'd stop at Season 1... but the Jackie Warner obsession has fully taken over. In this explosive kickoff to Season 2 of Show Pony, John spirals deeper into Bravo madness, wandering NYC like a Sky Sport & Spa-possessed zombie—and yes, he even gets naked for the YouTube fans. Joining him is Andy's Girls host and Bravo authority Sarah Galli, who’s been decoding reality TV for a decade. Together, they unpack the cultural legacy of Workout, the unrelenting power of Jackie Warner, and what it means when Bravo takes over your soul. Subscribe, strip down, and saddle up—because Season 2 is off to an absolutely unhinged start.

It’s the Workout Season 1 finale, and everything goes off the rails. Jackie Warner was scheduled to appear on the podcast. Instead, she sent a shocking text (which we reenact in full). Then a parade outside destroyed our audio setup. Somehow, John Hill and Eric Maxwell powered through—spiraling live, trying to recap the finale and stay emotionally upright. Enter Broadway star and Bravo legend Natalie Joy Johnson, who shows up to deliver JOVANI realness and dish on borrowing dresses from Countess Luann herself. Together, we try to make sense of the season's end—and the glorious mess it took to get here. Follow @johnhilljohnhill + @njjisrelentless + @elephanteric

This was supposed to be our Show Pony season finale with Jackie Warner. Instead… chaos. In this bonus full-length episode, John Hill and Eric Maxwell recap the behind-the-scenes disaster of the finale recording: Jackie drops out last minute (via a text we dramatically reenact), a parade destroys our audio, and we try to keep it together while recapping the final episode of Workout. This is the extended cut of a shorter conversation that appears in the main finale episode—a raw, hilarious spiral into unexpected territory. Watch the meltdown. Hear the chaos. Love the pony. Follow John on Instagram: @johnhilljohnhill
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John Arthur Hill takes his obsession with Bravo's Workout to a new level — by inviting a blind date to cohost this week’s Show Pony. Yes, this is their actual first date. On mic. No script. No safety net. Together they unpack Jackie Warner’s romantic storyline in Episode 5 of Workout, while navigating their own on-air chemistry. What starts as a recap turns into a meta reality show moment — equal parts awkward, hilarious, and unexpectedly tender. It’s Show Pony meets The Rehearsal meets Grindr roulette.
Tune in for one of the boldest podcast stunts yet.

SHOW PONY Ep. 4 – John Flies Across the Country to Stand Outside a Gym John has completely snapped.
Fueled by a Bravo fitness obsession 20 years in the making, he impulsively travels cross-country just to loiter outside Sky Sport & Spa — the hallowed ground of Workout. Overwhelmed by his own madness, he calls Andy Cohen’s assistant (also a trusted lifelong lesbian) to emotionally process this very public, very personal spiral. 💥 It’s an episode full of bad decisions, emotional damage, and gym-based delusion.
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