The Note Investor Podcast

Simplifying Seller Finance


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Seller finance compliance feels messy because multiple rule sets overlap and the gray areas are real. In this episode, I break down the essentials—Dodd-Frank Ability-to-Repay (ATR), TRID timelines, and the "Rules of 1, 3, and 5"—and show you how to keep deals simple, compliant, and sellable.

Key takeaways

  • Dodd-Frank ATR (the big one): If your borrower is an owner-occupant, you must make a good-faith determination they can repay (credit, income, debts, residual income). You want to underwrite anyway—this protects you and improves loan performance.

  • TRID basics: Send a Loan Estimate (LE) ≥ 7 business days before closing and a Closing Disclosure (CD) ≥ 3 business days before closing. Disclosure reduces misunderstandings and defaults.

  • Rules of 1 / 3 / 5 (why the myths persist):

    • "1 per year": Only applies to natural persons selling their own primary residence (not investment deals or entities). Not the "do anything you want" rule most think it is.

    • "3 per year": You can create up to 3 loans/year without involving an RMLO, but ATR still applies. Not Wild West.

    • "5 per year": You can do up to 5 loans/year without TRID, but if you're already doing ATR with an RMLO, you'll typically do TRID too—there's no reason not to.

  • Why follow ATR + TRID even when not strictly required:

    1. Better underwriting → fewer defaults

    2. Easier to sell (and at higher prices) to institutional buyers

    3. Enforceability if a borrower contests in court

    4. Costs are typically passed to the borrower at closing

  • Servicing tip: For owner-occupied loans, use a third-party servicer. Compliance on servicing is even stricter, and you can contractually pass the monthly fee to the borrower.

Resources mentioned

  • 📄 One-Page Seller Finance Rule Guide (free) — quick reference you can keep on your desk

  • 🤖 Note Copilot AI — my private GPT trained on 160+ sources (Note Launchpad transcripts, case studies, internal docs) to help you analyze, price, and operate notes in real time

Events & shout-outs

  • I'll be at Note Expo in Dallas, Nov 7–8 — great for networking (700+ people). Get your ticket HERE.

  • Paper Trail Conference recap — smaller, intimate, lots of note creators

Chapters (adjust timestamps after upload)

  • 00:00 Intro & why seller finance feels confusing

  • 01:10 Event updates (Note Expo, Paper Trail)

  • 03:20 What is Note Copilot AI?

  • 05:50 Seller finance compliance overview

  • 06:30 Dodd-Frank ATR (what it really requires)

  • 08:40 TRID timelines (LE/CD and why they help)

  • 10:15 The 1 / 3 / 5 rules explained (and myths)

  • 14:30 Why follow ATR+TRID even when not mandated

  • 17:20 Servicing: why to outsource & pass fees

  • 19:30 Wrap-up & how to get help

Work with me / Get help

  • Underwriting & compliance for seller-finance deals: Call The Underwriter

  • Questions? [email protected]

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