For this episode I had the absolute pleasure of talking with New Zealand business royalty Sir Michael Hill.

In an extended chat Michael talks about his upbringing, problems with bullying and family, learning his trade and building a multi-national business empire, those adverts, and passing on his secrets to success to younger New Zealanders.

This is an enthralling conversation with a surprisingly humble man who has been there and done that when it comes to turning a small business into a household name.

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