In a world of contant busyness and rushing around, it can be really hard to wait. In this episode, producer Sam unpacks his own difficult relationship with waiting and lands on a few questions to help guide his patience. Later on, Petra talks with Nathan McLellan, the CEO of Venn Foundation, about the different scales of waiting and how the biggest, most existential kind of waiting can guide our everday need for patience.

Sacred Texts:

Oh The Places You'll Go by Dr Seuss

What it Means to Wait by John Dennison

Music:

Rock & Roll by The Velvet Underground

Caja de la Sala by Khruangbin

The Guitar is Dead 3 by Horsegirl

Ya Ya Breathe by Bruno Pernadas

It's Going to Take Some Time by Carole King

A Calf Born in Winter by Khruangbin

If Only I Could Wait by Bon Iver and Danielle Haim

Exchange by Massive Attack

What does it mean to be a caregiver? Where does the beauty hide, and how do we manage the difficulty? In this episode, Petra talks with her neighbour, Nick, and Andrea Page, the director of the Salvation Army's Epsom Lodge here in Auckland. Producer Sam also pays a visit to musician C. Zukey to ask about the story behind his 2024 album Stone Fruut.

The hope is that this episode helps caregivers to feel seen and encouraged, as well as building understanding of what it is like in those who aren't caregivers.

Music:

Space 7 by Nala Sinephro

Interlude by Julie Byrne

Statue of a Woman by Novo Amor

Who Knows Where the Time Goes? by Fairport Convention

New Grass by Talk Talk

Water Temple by C. Zukey

Ocean City by Gunn - Truscinski Duo

Petra's full conversation with Pádraig Ó Tuama, from the episode Peace within Chaos.

When everything feels a bit much, how do we find peace within the chaos? In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra Bagust finally gets a chance to talk with Irish poet Pádraig Ó Tuama about how his history of mediation and writing poetry informs how he looks for peace. Second up is Christchurch-based counsellor Charlotte Cummings. Both Pádraig and Charlotte bring thoughtful, if very different, perspectives on looking for peace within chaos.

Charlotte's podcast, Feel Better, can be found here

Read more of Pádraig's poetry here

Sacred texts:

Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch Albom

Lessons on Living by Nigel Latta

Practices for Embodied Living by Dr Hillary McBride

Music:

You are the Gold by Terrible Sons

By the Sleepy Lagoon by Eric Coates

East Cape by Headland

The News by Paramore

Walk Alone to Hear Thoughts of Your Own by Laura Misch

Spirit 2.0 by Sampha

Peace Piece by the Bill Evans Trio

Niueans of Ariki Street - Ariki Street - 04 by Hanisi Garue

Petra's full conversation with Professor Niki Harré, from the episode Am I My Brother's Keeper?

Ohhhh how much more simple life would be if all we had to do was look out for ourselves.... But in a society that encourages insularity, and where its negative consequences can be clearly seen, how do we balance responsibility for ourselves, as well as responsibility for others?

In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra talks to returning fan favourite Frank Ritchie and the head of the school of psychology at Auckland University, Niki Harré. Niki's new book 'The Calling; A Year Exploring What the Secular World can Learn from Religion" is out on March 12th.

Sacred Text:

He Tatau Pounamu by Alistair Reese

Sam drew on reporting and interviews from Jad Abumrad's podcast Fela Kuti: Fear No Man. Listen to it on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts

Music:

Instrumental by The Fuzzy Robes

Zombie by Fela Kuti

Lagos (Never Gonna Be The Same) by Hugh Masakela and Tony Allen

Slider - Lorenzo Saxophone Dub by This Is The Kit

Nest Egg by Phoenix Foundation

Tesifa by Laney Tripp

Kia ora! We're back from our wee break and are stoked to be making more episodes of Sunday Sanctuary for you this year.

Find us on Instagram. We're @sundaysanctuarynz

Sacred Texts:

Unruly Saint by D. L. Mayfield

I Shall Be Released by Nina Simone

The four themes of the season of Advent in the Christian calendar are hope, peace, joy and love. There are two others that we've noticed, though, which are anticipation and celebration. In this episode, Petra explores how these two things can happen at the same time. First up, Petra and producer Sam talk to a handful of people who are all at different moments of change (graduation, motherhood, marriage etc). Later on Petra talks to Rev. Sarah Lea-West about her art (found here) and how she has learnt to navigate the combination of anticipation and celebration.

Sacred Text:

• A passage from Padraig O'Tuama's book In the Shelter

Music:

• Exchange by Massive AttackSunshine
• Family Affair by Mary J Blige
• The Breeze by Dr Dog
• Peace Piece by Bill Evans
• Muramura by Aro

Sunday the 30th of November marks the start of Advent for 2025, the season of the Christian calendar that leads into Christmas. As Petra and guest producer Mick get into, Advent is all about waiting. In the first half, Mick talks to his close friends Tom and Carly about a long wait they endured in 2021. Later on Petra talks to Rev. Mathew 'Newt' Newton about how faith in God can help us to learn to wait, even when it often feels like there is no good reason to. 

Sacred Text:

• Sacred Trust by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Music:

• A Change is Gonna Come by Sam Cooke
• Statue of a Woman by Novo Amour
• Moon Age by Duster
• Sitting in Limbo by Jimmy Cliff
• Intro by The xx
• Space 7 by Nala Sinephro

Why do people still go to church? There are no shortage of reasons why church might seem like an outdated model for collective Christian worship, so why do they hang around? In this collab episode with the In The Shift podcast, Petra and Michael Frost sit down to talk about the societal and spiritual reasons why churches are still worthwhile, in spite of their spotty history.

If you want to find the full discussion that Petra and Michael had, look for In The Shift wherever you find your podcasts. Find the website here and the Instagram here. An episode of In The Shift we recommend you start with if you're keen to hear more is episode #104 with James Beck, 'Earthiness, Spirituality and Relational Resonance'.

Sacred Texts:

• Quote from Dietrich Bonhoeffer
• Excerpt from a Guardian profile of popstar Rosalia

Music:

• Another Scorcher by Christoph El Truento
• Equipoise by Max Roach
• Galvanise by The Chemical Brothers
• FTA by Whitney
• Get Together by The Youngbloods
• Grazing In The Grass by Hugh Masakela
• Just Saying by Jamie xx