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“And you see these kids who are put away at 12 and 13 years old. I mean, what is the path for that child, rejected by your family, rejected by your community? There's so little hope there. And so I became drawn to stories of hope of men who were in that situation.
My friend Chris Wilson, I helped him sell a book called The Master Plan. He was put away for murder when he was 16 years old. And he was in prison for life, and he wrote a bucket list. He wrote a master plan when he was 18 about what he was going to try to achieve. And he was one of those exceptional stories. And he's now a really successful artist and entrepreneur who spends most of his time giving back to the community and hiring other reentering citizens. Our friend Louis Reed, who consulted on Delroy Lindo's character, Louis is a senior director for Van Jones' Dream Corps, and he was 15 years incarcerated. And I see these people who had made one mistake, and usually it was to survive in whatever situation they were born into. And the folks who are these exceptional stories, who turn it around in such an unbelievable way that they can then coach and help 650,000 other people. With Louis, our consultant who helped Delroy with his character, he has worked on so much policy change with Van Jones with Cut50 and Reform Alliance, and you can't even quantify the amount of work that still needs to be done. But that has been done by the gentlemen who survived the system and devoted themselves to redemption and giving back to the community.”
Joy Gorman Wettels is the founder of Joy Coalition, an impact producing venture with a focus on creating purpose-driven film and television content for a global audience. She executive-produced the newly-released UnPrisoned, and is currently working on a multi-part storytelling ecosystem inspired by landmark civil rights documentary Eyes on the Prize. Her body of work includes, notably, the critically acclaimed series Home Before Dark, the influential 13 Reasons Why, created by Pulitzer and Tony Award-winning playwright Brian Yorkey and directed by Oscar-winner Tom McCarthy (Spotlight).
Other works include The Meddler, named Vanity Fair's #1 film of 2016, and the forthcoming adaptation of Little House on the Prairie. She serves on the Advisory Council for UCLA’s Center for Scholars and Storytellers and the Advisory Board for Hollywood, Health and Society at USC. As part of their commitment to social change, Joy Coalition works in collaboration with the Office of the Surgeon General in response to the youth mental health crisis. She’s accepted a Sentinel Award, Television Academy Honors for advancing social change, and the 2018 Mental Health America Media Award.
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Joy Gorman Wettels is the founder of Joy Coalition, an impact producing venture with a focus on creating purpose-driven film and television content for a global audience. She executive-produced the newly-released UnPrisoned, and is currently working on a multi-part storytelling ecosystem inspired by landmark civil rights documentary Eyes on the Prize. Her body of work includes, notably, the critically acclaimed series Home Before Dark, the influential 13 Reasons Why, created by Pulitzer and Tony Award-winning playwright Brian Yorkey and directed by Oscar-winner Tom McCarthy (Spotlight).
Other works include The Meddler, named Vanity Fair's #1 film of 2016, and the forthcoming adaptation of Little House on the Prairie. She serves on the Advisory Council for UCLA’s Center for Scholars and Storytellers and the Advisory Board for Hollywood, Health and Society at USC. As part of their commitment to social change, Joy Coalition works in collaboration with the Office of the Surgeon General in response to the youth mental health crisis. She’s accepted a Sentinel Award, Television Academy Honors for advancing social change, and the 2018 Mental Health America Media Award.
“And you see these kids who are put away at 12 and 13 years old. I mean, what is the path for that child, rejected by your family, rejected by your community? There's so little hope there. And so I became drawn to stories of hope of men who were in that situation.
My friend Chris Wilson, I helped him sell a book called The Master Plan. He was put away for murder when he was 16 years old. And he was in prison for life, and he wrote a bucket list. He wrote a master plan when he was 18 about what he was going to try to achieve. And he was one of those exceptional stories. And he's now a really successful artist and entrepreneur who spends most of his time giving back to the community and hiring other reentering citizens. Our friend Louis Reed, who consulted on Delroy Lindo's character, Louis is a senior director for Van Jones' Dream Corps, and he was 15 years incarcerated. And I see these people who had made one mistake, and usually it was to survive in whatever situation they were born into. And the folks who are these exceptional stories, who turn it around in such an unbelievable way that they can then coach and help 650,000 other people. With Louis, our consultant who helped Delroy with his character, he has worked on so much policy change with Van Jones with Cut50 and Reform Alliance, and you can't even quantify the amount of work that still needs to be done. But that has been done by the gentlemen who survived the system and devoted themselves to redemption and giving back to the community.”
www.joycoalition.com
www.imdb.com/name/nm2229726
www.imdb.com/title/tt20228406/mediaviewer/rm1596470273/?ref_=tt_ov_i
www.creativeprocess.info
www.oneplanetpodcast.org
IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast
“I definitely observed that in university where you see maybe multiple choice tests rather than critical thinking usage. You're exactly right. In developing countries such as Madagascar, it's a matter of not even having the basic education skills like literacy and mathematics to then be able to advance beyond their village of origin to pursue greater opportunities. So I would say, in the US people are more focused on grades and standardized test scores, and then how much money they could make after graduation.
At least from my experience going to university, I was a business major, so a lot of people wanted to go into banking, venture capital, and those type of consulting jobs where they would be guaranteed a stable income. Whereas, in Madagascar, they're just really wanting to learn English and how they can go to higher education, oftentimes in France or other European countries.”
Maggie Grout is the founder and CEO of Thinking Huts, an international NGO that increases global access to education with innovative, humanitarian-driven technology solutions. Founded by Maggie 8 years ago, when she was15, Thinking Huts seeks to empower young people, especially girls, to achieve more opportunities by obtaining an education. Grout gave a TEDx talk in 2021 on “how we can tackle the global education crisis with 3D printing.”
Grout was born in a rural village in China and adopted at a young age, but where she came from largely shaped her outlook on life and subliminally led her to start Thinking Huts in 2015. Growing up in London and Colorado, Grout was exposed to the melting pot of cultures in British and American society, but she often wondered why so many people were unaware of how others lived an ocean away. She understood what poverty looks like firsthand and how education empowers people to attain greater opportunities.
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Maggie Grout is the founder and CEO of Thinking Huts, an international NGO that increases global access to education with innovative, humanitarian-driven technology solutions. Founded by Maggie 8 years ago, when she was15, Thinking Huts seeks to empower young people, especially girls, to achieve more opportunities by obtaining an education. Grout gave a TEDx talk in 2021 on “how we can tackle the global education crisis with 3D printing.”
Grout was born in a rural village in China and adopted at a young age, but where she came from largely shaped her outlook on life and subliminally led her to start Thinking Huts in 2015. Growing up in London and Colorado, Grout was exposed to the melting pot of cultures in British and American society, but she often wondered why so many people were unaware of how others lived an ocean away. She understood what poverty looks like firsthand and how education empowers people to attain greater opportunities.
“I definitely observed that in university where you see maybe multiple choice tests rather than critical thinking usage. You're exactly right. In developing countries such as Madagascar, it's a matter of not even having the basic education skills like literacy and mathematics to then be able to advance beyond their village of origin to pursue greater opportunities. So I would say, in the US people are more focused on grades and standardized test scores, and then how much money they could make after graduation.
At least from my experience going to university, I was a business major, so a lot of people wanted to go into banking, venture capital, and those type of consulting jobs where they would be guaranteed a stable income. Whereas, in Madagascar, they're just really wanting to learn English and how they can go to higher education, oftentimes in France or other European countries.”
www.thinkinghuts.org
www.creativeprocess.info
www.oneplanetpodcast.org
IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast
“I definitely believe at the moment that fashion brands, big fashion in particular, they just exist to exploit people. It's an excuse to exploit the poor, basically. I see fashion as part of this very extractive global economic society where 100, 150 years ago, that extraction was very obvious. You had the enslavement of people. You had taxation. You had literally armies turning up and occupying the land that they wanted and just taking resources or land. These days it's more subtle, but the brands are still following those colonial pathways.
I'm like sat here in London and, you know, there's a reason why British brands go to India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, following the same colonial trade routes. It's also a system very much based on really unfair debt and a total lack of debt justice whereby Global South economies are having to earn foreign capital by opening themselves up to these export industries, whether that's cotton or coffee or garments. 80% of everything that Bangladesh exports are garments. It is a ludicrous position for an economy to be in. And it's very deliberate exploitation as well. Brands make these sourcing decisions very, very deliberately.
They go where they think that workers' rights will be suppressed and environmental legislation will be suppressed. And if anything does happen that the government will step in and do the suppressing and just give them a sort of carte blanche to do whatever they want.
So at the moment, it's very difficult to point at any part of the fashion industry and go, that's not exploitative. You know, that's exploiting the land, that's exploiting these people, that's based on fossil fuels. Those toxic dyes are going into the river. It's a deeply exploitative, industry.”
Tansy E. Hoskins is an award winning author and journalist who investigates the global fashion industry. She’s the author of The Anti-Capitalist Book Of Fashion, Foot Work, and Stitched Up. This work has taken her to Bangladesh, India, North Macedonia, and to the Topshop warehouses in Solihull.
www.plutobooks.com/9780745346618/the-anti-capitalist-book-of-fashion/
www.amazon.co.uk/Foot-Work-What-Your-Shoes-Are-Doing-to-the-World-Tansy-Hoskins/dp/1474609856/
www.creativeprocess.info
www.oneplanetpodcast.org
IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast
Tansy E. Hoskins is an award winning author and journalist who investigates the global fashion industry. She’s the author of The Anti-Capitalist Book Of Fashion, Foot Work, and Stitched Up. This work has taken her to Bangladesh, India, North Macedonia, and to the Topshop warehouses in Solihull.
“I definitely believe at the moment that fashion brands, big fashion in particular, they just exist to exploit people. It's an excuse to exploit the poor, basically. I see fashion as part of this very extractive global economic society where 100, 150 years ago, that extraction was very obvious. You had the enslavement of people. You had taxation. You had literally armies turning up and occupying the land that they wanted and just taking resources or land. These days it's more subtle, but the brands are still following those colonial pathways.
I'm like sat here in London and, you know, there's a reason why British brands go to India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, following the same colonial trade routes. It's also a system very much based on really unfair debt and a total lack of debt justice whereby Global South economies are having to earn foreign capital by opening themselves up to these export industries, whether that's cotton or coffee or garments. 80% of everything that Bangladesh exports are garments. It is a ludicrous position for an economy to be in. And it's very deliberate exploitation as well. Brands make these sourcing decisions very, very deliberately.
They go where they think that workers' rights will be suppressed and environmental legislation will be suppressed. And if anything does happen that the government will step in and do the suppressing and just give them a sort of carte blanche to do whatever they want.
So at the moment, it's very difficult to point at any part of the fashion industry and go, that's not exploitative. You know, that's exploiting the land, that's exploiting these people, that's based on fossil fuels. Those toxic dyes are going into the river. It's a deeply exploitative, industry.”
www.plutobooks.com/9780745346618/the-anti-capitalist-book-of-fashion/
www.amazon.co.uk/Foot-Work-What-Your-Shoes-Are-Doing-to-the-World-Tansy-Hoskins/dp/1474609856/
www.creativeprocess.info
www.oneplanetpodcast.org
IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast
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“So in many cities, it's certainly true in many US cities, the poorer neighborhoods are much less likely to have green space, and they're much more likely to suffer exposure to extreme heat. So one issue is redesigning cities to withstand these climatic shocks, reducing the inequities in the prospects for living that many people have. And thinking about how to minimize the potential impact of climate change by increasing inequities, which could happen unless we forestall that. So that's one issue. The other is how we recreate the transport systems. Now in many industrialized countries, of course, we depend very much on the private car, and that leads to congestion, traffic, traffic injuries, and deaths on a global scale, about 1.3 million people a year die of traffic injuries. I won't call them accidents because I think many of them can actually be can be factored out with appropriate policies. So we need to think about win-win policies, which will make cities more pleasant places to live and reduce their environmental footprint. And one of the approaches, of course, is by creating more active opportunities for active travel, walking and cycling, safer walking, and cycling, but also better public transport systems. So reducing our dependence on a private car and then emphasizing more when we do need to use a car. Shared ownership, for example, is one option. So a number of things can be done. But of course, in order to change people's travel patterns, you need to make active travel, and public transport, both affordable, safe, and pleasant. And, and that's, I think a challenge for urban planners that we need to focus much more on that. And also, this has led to the rise of the concept of the 15-minute city, in which basically all basic services are within 15 minutes walking or cycling.”
Andy Haines was formerly a family doctor and Professor of Primary Health Care at UCL. He developed an interest in climate change and health in the 1990’s and was a member of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change for the 2nd and 3rd assessment exercises and review editor for the health chapter in the 5th assessment. He was Director (formerly Dean) of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine from 2001- October 2010. He chaired the Scientific Advisory Panel for the 2013 WHO World Health Report, the Rockefeller /Lancet Commission on Planetary Health (2014-15) and the European Academies Science Advisory Council working group on climate change and health (2018-19). He currently co-chairs the InterAcademy Partnership (140 science academies worldwide) working group on climate change and health and is also co-chairing the Lancet Pathfinder Commission on health in the zero-carbon economy. He has published many papers on topics such as the effects of environmental change on health and the health co-benefits of low carbon policies. His current research focuses on climate change mitigation, sustainable healthy food systems and complex urban systems for sustainability. He was awarded the Tyler Prize for Environmental Achievement in 2022.
www.lshtm.ac.uk
https://tylerprize.org
www.interacademies.org
www.creativeprocess.info
www.oneplanetpodcast.org
IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast
Andy Haines was formerly a family doctor and Professor of Primary Health Care at UCL. He developed an interest in climate change and health in the 1990’s and was a member of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change for the 2nd and 3rd assessment exercises and review editor for the health chapter in the 5th assessment. He was Director (formerly Dean) of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine from 2001- October 2010. He chaired the Scientific Advisory Panel for the 2013 WHO World Health Report, the Rockefeller /Lancet Commission on Planetary Health (2014-15) and the European Academies Science Advisory Council working group on climate change and health (2018-19). He currently co-chairs the InterAcademy Partnership (140 science academies worldwide) working group on climate change and health and is also co-chairing the Lancet Pathfinder Commission on health in the zero-carbon economy. He has published many papers on topics such as the effects of environmental change on health and the health co-benefits of low carbon policies. His current research focuses on climate change mitigation, sustainable healthy food systems and complex urban systems for sustainability. He was awarded the Tyler Prize for Environmental Achievement in 2022.
“So in many cities, it's certainly true in many US cities, the poorer neighborhoods are much less likely to have green space, and they're much more likely to suffer exposure to extreme heat. So one issue is redesigning cities to withstand these climatic shocks, reducing the inequities in the prospects for living that many people have. And thinking about how to minimize the potential impact of climate change by increasing inequities, which could happen unless we forestall that. So that's one issue. The other is how we recreate the transport systems. Now in many industrialized countries, of course, we depend very much on the private car, and that leads to congestion, traffic, traffic injuries, and deaths on a global scale, about 1.3 million people a year die of traffic injuries. I won't call them accidents because I think many of them can actually be can be factored out with appropriate policies. So we need to think about win-win policies, which will make cities more pleasant places to live and reduce their environmental footprint. And one of the approaches, of course, is by creating more active opportunities for active travel, walking and cycling, safer walking, and cycling, but also better public transport systems. So reducing our dependence on a private car and then emphasizing more when we do need to use a car. Shared ownership, for example, is one option. So a number of things can be done. But of course, in order to change people's travel patterns, you need to make active travel, and public transport, both affordable, safe, and pleasant. And, and that's, I think a challenge for urban planners that we need to focus much more on that. And also, this has led to the rise of the concept of the 15-minute city, in which basically all basic services are within 15 minutes walking or cycling.”
www.lshtm.ac.uk
https://tylerprize.org
www.interacademies.org
www.creativeprocess.info
www.oneplanetpodcast.org
IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast
"The interesting text is Quicksand, right? Because it shows a couple of engagements with jazz, and there's a certain point in which the protagonist of Quicksand dances to music in a cabaret, and it's described as 'jungle music'. So we would think of Duke Ellington's Jungle Music Band of the 1920s, and we would also notice the kind of reactionary, racial ideas that go with labeling something as from the jungle. And so there's a way in which jazz is trying to be America's responding to jazz by containing it, thinking of it as something kind of primitive. But this is something that's codified or themetized in Nella Larsen's novel.
The protagonist goes in here, and one, she's like the music drives her with a certain kind of intensity, something like ecstasy that's really unparalleled throughout the rest of the novel. And so it's exciting, and it moves her in a certain way, but she knows that if she becomes part of this 'jungle music', she'll be figured as a certain kind of woman. And so there are all sorts of racial assumptions, including primitivism that work to kind of limit recognition of its sophistication and its brilliance and its importance."
Bruce Evan Barnhart is an associate professor of American literature and culture at the University of Oslo and co-director of the project Literature, Rights, and Imagined Communities. He is the author of Jazz in the Time of the Novel: The Temporal Politics of American Race and Culture. His work has appeared in African American Review, Callaloo, and Novel. His latest publications are Temporal Experiments: Seven Ways of Configuring Time in Art and Literature, co-edited with Marit Grøtta, and LeRoi Jones, Jazz, and the Resonance of Class. His research interests include African American literature, post-Marxist theory, jazz, and Caribbean aesthetics.
www.hf.uio.no/ilos/english/people/aca/bruceb
www.routledge.com/Temporal-Experiments-Seven-Ways-of-Configuring-Time-in-Art-and-Literature/Barnhart-Grotta/p/book/9781032350240
https://www.hf.uio.no/ilos/english/research/groups/temporal-experiments/
www.creativeprocess.info
www.oneplanetpodcast.org
IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast
Bruce Evan Barnhart is an associate professor of American literature and culture at the University of Oslo and co-director of the project Literature, Rights, and Imagined Communities. He is the author of Jazz in the Time of the Novel: The Temporal Politics of American Race and Culture. His work has appeared in African American Review, Callaloo, and Novel. His latest publications are Temporal Experiments: Seven Ways of Configuring Time in Art and Literature, co-edited with Marit Grøtta, and LeRoi Jones, Jazz, and the Resonance of Class. His research interests include African American literature, post-Marxist theory, jazz, and Caribbean aesthetics.
"The interesting text is Quicksand, right? Because it shows a couple of engagements with jazz, and there's a certain point in which the protagonist of Quicksand dances to music in a cabaret, and it's described as 'jungle music'. So we would think of Duke Ellington's Jungle Music Band of the 1920s, and we would also notice the kind of reactionary, racial ideas that go with labeling something as from the jungle. And so there's a way in which jazz is trying to be America's responding to jazz by containing it, thinking of it as something kind of primitive. But this is something that's codified or themetized in Nella Larsen's novel.
The protagonist goes in here, and one, she's like the music drives her with a certain kind of intensity, something like ecstasy that's really unparalleled throughout the rest of the novel. And so it's exciting, and it moves her in a certain way, but she knows that if she becomes part of this 'jungle music', she'll be figured as a certain kind of woman. And so there are all sorts of racial assumptions, including primitivism that work to kind of limit recognition of its sophistication and its brilliance and its importance."
www.hf.uio.no/ilos/english/people/aca/bruceb
www.routledge.com/Temporal-Experiments-Seven-Ways-of-Configuring-Time-in-Art-and-Literature/Barnhart-Grotta/p/book/9781032350240
https://www.hf.uio.no/ilos/english/research/groups/temporal-experiments/
www.creativeprocess.info
www.oneplanetpodcast.org
IG www.instagram.com/creativeprocesspodcast
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Social Justice & Activism episodes of the popular The Creative Process podcast. We speak to activists, environmental organizations, indigenous groups, artists, writers & others who have devoted their life to making a difference.
Exploring the fascinating minds of creative people. Conversations with writers, artists & creative thinkers across the Arts & STEM. We discuss their life, work & artistic practice. Winners of Oscar, Emmy, Tony, Pulitzer, leaders & public figures share real experiences & offer valuable insights. Notable guests and participating museums and organizations include: Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences, Neil Patrick Harris, Smithsonian, Roxane Gay, Musée Picasso, EARTHDAY.ORG, Neil Gaiman, UNESCO, Joyce Carol Oates, Mark Seliger, Acropolis Museum, Hilary Mantel, Songwriters Hall of Fame, George Saunders, The New Museum, Lemony Snicket, Pritzker Architecture Prize, Hans-Ulrich Obrist, Serpentine Galleries, Joe Mantegna, PETA, Greenpeace, EPA, Morgan Library & Museum, and many others.
The interviews are hosted by founder and creative educator Mia Funk with the participation of students, universities, and collaborators from around the world. These conversations are also part of our traveling exhibition.

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