The Mind Change Podcast

Subconscious First, Somatic Second: The right order for real, lasting transformation


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Why are so many people still stuck—even after therapy, breathwork, and nervous system regulation?

In this episode, Heather and Kent McKean explore why true healing often eludes people: the subconscious mind is being left out of the process. They unpack the limitations of somatic healing when used in isolation, explain how trauma is first interpreted and stored by the brain, and why lasting transformation must involve subconscious rewiring. Sharing real client stories, scientific insights, and practical wisdom, Heather and Kent lay out a powerful case for an integrated approach that addresses mind, body, and spirit—so you can stop coping and start healing for real.


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What we covered in this episode:

🧠 Subconscious Reprogramming Is Essential - Healing isn’t complete without addressing the subconscious mind, where core beliefs, emotional responses, and trauma interpretations are stored.

💥 Somatic Healing Alone Is Not Enough - While somatic practices can bring temporary relief and valuable awareness, they often become coping tools rather than solutions if the mind isn’t involved.

🌀 Trauma Is First Processed by the Brain - The nervous system reacts based on what the brain perceives. Trauma is stored not just in the body but through mental representations like images, sounds, and beliefs.

⚖️ Mind-Body-Spirit Integration Is Vital - Lasting transformation requires all parts of the self—mind, body, and energy/spirit—working in harmony, not in isolation.

Talk Therapy’s Limitations Are Real - Talk therapy can validate trauma but may reinforce painful neural pathways by repeating stories without rewiring the brain.

🚫 Beware of Healing Fads and Undertrained Coaches - Many practitioners are offering nervous system or somatic healing with little training, creating confusion and potentially harmful oversimplifications.

🔁 Without Subconscious Work, You Stay in a Loop - Practices like breathwork and meditation can become a constant need if the underlying programs aren't resolved, leading to management instead of freedom.

🌱 Freedom Is Possible—and Lasting - When subconscious patterns are transformed, people often report total shifts in beliefs, identity, and bodily responses—so deep that the old trauma becomes laughably irrelevant.


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