The Fold is taking a break over summer. We'll be back soon with new episodes but, until then, here's one of our favourites from 2023: She arrived off the boat from Ireland, and within a couple of years was interviewing the prime minister weekly. That led to one of the biggest political scoops of the decade, a long career at RNZ and the extraordinary life she lays bare in her acclaimed memoir Grand. Now McCarthy runs the exceptional podcast company Bird of Paradise, and has recently collaborated with The Spinoff on Dear Jane, a narrative podcast available now on The Spinoff Podcast Network, which reflects on one woman's experience as a 14 year old girl in an inappropriate relationship with the youth group leader at her church.

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