In this first of a two-part episode, Ben is joined by Cathy Wassell - CEO of Autistic Girls Network, founder of The Haven online school, and successful author.

Neurodivergent herself and mum to two autistic children, Cathy is at the front line supporting autistic girls, women, and families, while campaigning for earlier diagnosis and a more up-to-date education system.

With both lived experience and a Masters in Autism, Cathy brings honesty and expertise to a conversation that busts myths, challenges stigma, and shines a light on what’s really going on for autistic girls and non-binary young people today.

00:00 Introduction

1:17 On the Frontline: Supporting Girls with Autism

7:30 Autism: How It Presents in Boys VS Girls

10:00 Why Situational Mutism VS Selective Mutism?

13:03 Masking & Sensory Differences: The Danger of Gender Bias in Autism

19:46 Neurodivergent Children: Navigating the Secondary School Transition

23:07 ND Passionate Interests: Explained

26:33 Why Are Autistic Girls Diagnosed Later than Boys?

32:30 Parent Groups for ND Children

35:00 Autistic Girls and Navigating Puberty

38:57 If Cathy Had a Magic Wand: Her Vision for ND Change

43:28 Spotting Autism in Girls: Cathy’s Checklist

45:24 Coming Up in Part Two

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Host: Ben Branson

Production Manager: Phoebe De Leiburné

Video Editor: James Scriven

Social Media Manager: Charlie Young

Music: Jackson Greenberg

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