For the 184th episode of Private Parts Unknown, host Courtney Kocak welcomes happily married swingers Dave and Victoria Arena for an episode all about non-monogamy — swinging, in specific. And I have the perfect guests because they’ve been happily married and active in the lifestyle for decades.

I met Dave and Victoria through a screenwriting workshop. They actually wrote a pilot for a TV series inspired by their swinger lifestyle. In real life, it began as innocent pillow talk, but when Victoria took the daring step to sign them up for a non-monogamy app, they had no idea what they were in for... But they quickly worked through that first awkward encounter and have been making it work ever since. Twenty years is a long time to be happily swinging with your partner, so in this episode, we'll learn their secrets for lasting so long in the lifestyle. We also explore how they first became swingers, their initial rules, how they prioritize their relationship, the joys of sex clubs, and the swinging scene in Cleveland, Ohio vs. New York City, plus tips for couples who want to start swinging and how to approach the conversation with your partner. This is a horny treat from the archive—this episode originally ran in April 2023.

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