Heather takes the mic to interview Vipin and I.

We covered as much ground as we could in discussing our article, but spent most of our time discussing Iran, U.S. nuclear strategy (including why the United States retains a damage limitation objective and how that is complicated by China’s nuclear modernization and expansion), extended deterrence, arms control, nonproliferation, and what we hope people are taking away from this writing.

We end with some virtual hugs and talk about our recent experience in government.

Follow Heather:

* @heatherwilly

* ‪@heatherwilly.bsky.social‬

* Heather Williams

And her team:

https://www.csis.org/programs/project-nuclear-issues

Hopefully most of you were able to read the gift link; here it is on the FA website:

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/how-survive-new-nuclear-age-narang-vaddi

Intro/outro music licensed by Soundstripe: “The Iron Curtain” by Wicked Cinema.

Recording and edits through Riverside.fm.

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