In this episode of Talking Teaching, Dr Sophie Specjal explores the story of Hester Hornbrook Academy, a fee-free, Independent Special Assistance School (SAS School) in Victoria supporting young people aged 15–25 who have experienced significant barriers to education, including trauma, mental health challenges, family violence, housing instability, or prolonged disengagement from schooling. 

The episode examines how learning and wellbeing are intentionally designed together to re-engage students and achieve successful outcomes and a sense of belonging. 

Joining host Sophie Specjal are Sally Lasslett, Executive Principal, and Elida Brereton, board member and long-serving former principal.

Together, they unpack what makes SAS schools like Hester Hornbrook distinctive: a healing-oriented approach to education, flexible learning environments shaped by student voice, and a multidisciplinary model that brings wellbeing and learning together without lowering expectations.

The conversation explores the realities of re-engaging students who may not yet feel safe in “traditional” schooling, the importance of staff support and supervision in high-complexity settings, and why personalised learning plans and applied learning projects can provide a powerful bridge back to achievement.

They also reflect on the sustained national growth of Special Assistance Schools in the diverse Independent School sector over the past decade, discussing why these models have expanded rapidly in response to increasing student complexity and disengagement, and what this means for the future of schooling in Australia.

In this episode of Talking Teaching, Dr Sophie Specjal sits down with Dr Jennifer Buckingham to explore the critical intersection of reading, reasoning, and artificial intelligence in contemporary education.Drawing on decades of research and policy experience, Dr Buckingham explains why reading is far more than decoding words; it is foundational to comprehension, critical thinking, and lifelong learning. The discussion traces the evolution of reading instruction in Australia, highlighting the importance of systematic phonics and evidence-based practice in improving literacy outcomes.The conversation also turns to the challenges faced in secondary schooling when reading difficulties persist, the impact of screen-based reading on comprehension, and what the rise of AI means for literacy, learning, and thinking. Throughout, Sophie and Jennifer discuss the enduring importance of fostering a love of reading, building strong teacher knowledge, and ensuring all students have the opportunity to become confident, capable readers, now and into the future.

What can Indigenous knowledge teach us about raising and educating children? Anishinaabe visiting scholar Professor Jan Hare, from the M’Chigeeng First Nation and Dean of the Faculty of Education at the University of British Columbia, joins host Dr Sophie Specjal to explore how Indigenous principles can guide the way we care for and teach children. Professor Hare shares stories such as The Three Sisters, highlights the role of ceremony and learning with the land, and invites educators to see young children as ‘gifts.’ She also reflects on how these perspectives could help shape policy reforms in Australia.

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How do we measure what truly matters in education? Laureate Professor Emeritus John Hattie joins host Dr Sophie Specjal to reflect on five decades of research, leadership and global influence. From his pioneering work on Visible Learning to mentoring over 200 PhD students, Hattie explores the mentors, milestones and moments that defined his career, celebrates teacher expertise, and considers how schools can nurture curiosity and belonging. He also looks ahead to how AI may transform classrooms and learning.

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To mark 50 years of NAIDOC Week, Talking Teaching celebrates this year’s theme, The Next Generation: Strength, Vision & Legacy, by spotlighting the work of Dr John Doolah, a proud Torres Strait Islander and Indigenous education lecturer at the University of Melbourne.

In conversation with host Dr Sophie Specjal, John reflects on his heritage, his research, and the enduring strength of Indigenous knowledge systems. He shares how Torres Strait Islander ways of knowing can be meaningfully embedded in classrooms through respectful collaboration and cultural understanding, not as an add-on, but as central to learning. This episode invites educators to reflect, learn, and take part in shaping a future that honours both the legacy of Elders and the vision of emerging Indigenous leaders.

Dr John Doolah is a proud Torres Strait Islander of Erubam le (Erub person) and Meriam le (Mer person) heritage. John belongs to the sager people of Mer and his Mer nosik (clan) division, is Samsep-Meriam. He is a lecturer in Indigenous Education at the University of Melbourne and a Ngarrngga post-doctoral fellow.

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How does language shape how we feel, relate, and learn? In this episode, host Dr. Sophie Specjal is joined by Professor Lindsay Oades, Dr Jacqui Francis and Lisa Baker to explore the emerging concept of Wellbeing Literacy; the capability to intentionally use language to foster wellbeing, including educational settings.

Together, they unpack how language can be used not just to communicate, but to regulate emotions, build community, and support learning across all stages. From arts-based programs in the Goulburn Valley to play-based learning in early years, this conversation highlights the real-world potential of integrating Wellbeing Literacy into everyday educational practice.

Professor Lindsay Oades is the Deputy Dean of the Faculty of Education, Dr Jacqui Francis is a Lecturer at the Centre for Wellbeing Science and Lisa Baker is a Project Officer at the REEaCh Centre.

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What if learning isn’t just about what we know, but about who we become? Professor Guy Claxton joins Talking Teaching to unpack his fascinating journey through psychology and education, and discusses learning as a capacity, calling for a balance between explanation and exploration in teaching.

In this episode, Professor Claxton together with our host, Dr Sophie Specjal, unpacks his critique of oversimplified teaching models and the central ideas behind his new book, Bodies of Learning. Professor Claxton reflects on the importance of integrating explicit instruction with inquiry, and highlights the role of embodiment, including movement and gesture, in deepening student understanding.

Guy Claxton is an Emeritus Professor of the Learning Sciences at Winchester’s Centre for Real-World Learning and an Honorary Senior Research Fellow at the University of Bristol.

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As artificial intelligence becomes more integrated into schools, what does it mean for the way we plan lessons, support students, and teach mathematics?

Dr Sophie Specjal explores the evolving role of AI in education with Dr Scott Cameron, Dr Carmel Mesiti, and Mr Luke Clift. They discuss the use of tools like ChatGPT in lesson planning, the impact on teacher workload, and how AI might support, or hinder, student engagement. Drawing on research and classroom practice, the guests unpack the variability of AI-generated content, the need for critical reflection, and the ethical considerations of AI in schools.

Dr Scott Cameron is a Lecturer in Mathematics Education at the Faculty of Education with an interest in using technology and AI to support teaching and learning.

Dr Carmel Mesiti is a Senior Lecturer at the Faculty of Education and expert in mathematics pedagogies for both primary and secondary education.

Mr Luke Clift is a practicing teacher at Kardinia International College, trialling AI in lesson planning and its use and impact in the classroom.

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Renowned educator Professor Gert Biesta joins Talking Teaching to explore the deeper purpose of education beyond knowledge transfer.

In this episode, Professor Biesta reflects on his journey from post-war Rotterdam to his influential academic career and introduces his three key dimensions of learning: qualification, socialisation, and subjectification. Together, they discuss the role of teachers in fostering student agency, the importance of high expectations, and the idea of world-centred education in an age of complexity.

Gert Biesta is a Professor of Public Education in the ⁠Centre for Public Education and Pedagogy⁠, Maynooth University, and Professor of Educational Theory and Pedagogy at the ⁠Moray House School of Education and Sport⁠, University of Edinburgh.

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What does effective curriculum design look like in today’s classrooms? And how can planning approaches support both student engagement and teacher agency?

Dr Sophie Specjal speaks with Auburn South Primary School’s Rhian ap Rees and Darien Hunte, along with Professor John Quay from the University of Melbourne’s Faculty of Education. They explore a framework developed by Professor Quay that combines backward design with inquiry-based learning, and share practical examples of how creative, collaborative planning is making a difference in the classroom.

John Quay is a Professor at the University of Melbourne’s Faculty of Education.

Rhian ap Rees is Assistant Principal at Auburn South Primary School.

Darien Hunte teaches Year 4 at Auburn South Primary School.

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This podcast is produced by the Faculty of Education, University of Melbourne.