Writing copy with personality is hard. So what does it take to do it? We invited copywriter and brand ventriloquist Justin Blackman to talk about how he does it for the 216th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast—and to give us an update on everything he’s done since our first interview with him way back in episode 59. If you’re looking for ways to write with more personality, this interview is for you. Here’s what we covered:

•   a recap of what he’s done in his business for the past 4 years

•   how he doubled his salary a year after leaving his full-time gig

•   how important building his authority was—and the result

•   when it’s time to move on to the next thing in your career

•   recreating your job/career as new opportunities arise

•   what it takes to build the confidence to move forward

•   taking on big challenges as a way to grow your authority and business

•   the investments Justin has made in mindset

•   how Justin’s ego kept him from writing his best work

•   Justin’s advice to anyone who feels like they aren’t as far along as they should be

•   how to write with more personality—the formulas that work

•   how to figure out your own unique voice

•   why so many voice guides are useless and what to do instead

•   Justin’s WTF framework and how it captures the 3 parts of brand voice

•   the things we’ve done in our businesses to change our mindsets

•   Kira’s brand strategy guides and what they include

•   the program he’s created to help others write with personality

•   how he gets everything done—it starts with working on his own stuff first

•   how to have fun while working as a copywriter

•   his tattoo story—this goes back to what he said about ego getting in the way

As usual, this is a great episode you won’t want to miss. Scroll down and hit the play button, or scroll a little farther to read a full transcript. Or download the episode to your podcast player. Better still, subscribe and never miss an episode.

The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:

Episode 59

Never Lose a Customer Again

The Go Giver

TCCIRL

Linda Perry

Lianna Patch

Abbey Woodcock

The Codex Persona

Ian Stanley

Liz Painter

Prerna Malik

The Big Leap by Gay Hendrix

Justin’s website

The tattoo video

Kira’s website

Rob’s website

The Copywriter Club Facebook Group

The Copywriter Underground

 

Full Transcript:

Rob:   Writing is hard, but writing with personality or perfectly capturing the personality of your client is even harder, but that's what Justin Blackman does. Justin is our guest for the 216th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast. He stopped by to share how his business has changed since the last time that we spoke in depth about the Headline Project way back on episode 59.

Kira:   Before we do that, this episode is brought to you by The Copywriter Underground, the membership for copywriters of all experience levels who want to invest in their businesses and grow. As a member, you get more than 60 hours of video training courses on marketing your business, improving your copywriting skills and fixing your mindset so you're set up for success. Learn more at thecopywriterunderground.com.

Rob:   Okay. So let's jump into our interview with Justin.

Kira:   Let's kick this off. My first question I even wrote down was, dude, what have you been up to the last year? Question mark. Question mark. Question mark. Because I feel like you've taken off. And I don't think it's just me because we talk about you and we say good things in our circles, and I feel like you just have, I don't know, like you just are doing the right things and it's paying off and you've put in a lot of hard work too that is worth acknowledging. But it just seems like you're doing really well. And so I am really excited to hear about what you've been doing, the changes you've made, and how it starting to pay off for you too.

Justin:   See, I think that's the fun part because the last couple of mont...