On the 311th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, Peta O’Brien-Day joins the show to discuss… Politics. But not in the way you’d imagine. Peta is a copywriter and messaging strategist who educates her audience on how to tread in delicate territory by leading with empathy in marketing their efforts.

Here’s how the conversation goes:

Her background in social work and learning how to empathize with teenagers by building relationships. What’s the secret?

Working in mentally challenging conditions and the toll it can take.

Becoming a widow and transitioning into many different careers.

Starting a blog about starting over and getting hired by parent-based companies.

Beginning on Upwork and optimizing her profile to appear first in the search bar.

How to communicate empathy with skeptical audiences as a business owner.

Never say these two things when someone is grieving — take notes.

How she upleveled her skills before cold pitching and landing a company who needed email copy.

How she went from $500/mo to consistent $4-$5k months.

The importance of being strategic about being more visible and how to do it.

How she found what truly lit her and began attracting more ideal clients.

Why she has a large ecosystem of where she acquires leads.

Her framework for writing values and molding them into your message (clear as day!)

What tools we can use when having difficult conversations.

Why it’s important to keep our perspectives open.

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The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:

P7 Workshop – get more clients

The Copywriter Think Tank

Kira’s website

Rob’s website

Peta's website 

Peta's politics membership waitlist 

The Copywriter Club Facebook Group

The Copywriter Underground

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