In Episode 4 of The Copywriter Club podcast, Kira and Rob interview former HotJar copywriter, Brian Lenney. Since we recorded the show, Brian has left HotJar for the world of freelancing. And though he didn't know he would be leaving when we spoke, you can hear Brian almost talking himself into the decision during our discussion. Take a listen by clicking the play button below, or scroll down for a full transcript.

The people and stuff we mentioned on the show:

Inbound.org

HotJar

Ry Schwartz

Winsome Writing

Joel Klettke

Bob Hoffman | The Ad Contrarian

Brian’s Controversial Inbound Discussion

Google Docs

The Cult of Copy

Copyhackers Mastermind

The Copywriter Club Facebook Group

David Darmanin

Gary V—How We Make the Sausage

The Brothers Karizmozov

Brian Dean

Copyhackers

Cormack McCarthy’s The Road

C.S. Lewis

David McCullough

Kira’s Horror Podcasts

Brian’s Twitter

Intro: Content (for now)

Outro: Gravity

Kira’s website

Rob’s website