This week's show is with the amazing Dr Joanna LaPrade. Joanna LaPrade, M.A. Ph.D., is a Registered Psychotherapist, author, speaker, and educator.

Joanna LaPrade, M.A. Ph.D., earned her doctorate in Jungian and archetypal psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute. She is now the founder of Aion Psychotherapy and a practicing Jungian psychotherapist in Colorado. Her therapeutic work focuses on helping clients find a meaningful connection to their inner worlds. Outside of her practice, Dr. LaPrade is a speaker and educator whose expertise focus on myth, psyche, and the Jungian and archetypal perspective. She is also the author of Forged in Darkness: The Many Paths of Personal Transformation, a book that unites self-discovery with mythology, to handle an important dilemma of our times—how to navigate the darkness of life.

In this conversation, Dr Joanna and Lian dived deep into an exploration, inspired by the question of: What is true growth?

They nerded out on telos, fate, astrology, and symbols, and the inherent paradox and challenges we're brought present to whilst journeying on this path.

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What you'll learn from this episode:

• Joanna shared Jung's self-reflective question of "Who am I to have this happen to me?" - this is an orientation to our lives that can invite and open us into having a deep intimacy with ourselves.

• Allowing symbols to emerge and yet, holding them lightly and allowing the space for the tension of not knowing allows more to arise

• What will help you to hold the tension between the known and unknown, to journey with the deep questions without needing to kill the questions or fix the problem?

Resources and stuff that we spoke about:

• For more information about Dr. Joanna's work, visit www.aionpsychotherapy.com

• Books mentioned:

  • The Sound of Bells by Norah Moore

  • Jung's Studies in Astrology: Prophecy, Magic, and the Qualities of Time by Liz Greene

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Thank you! Lian and Jonathan