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"We're getting the band back together!" is how honorary TSFU member Dr. Bryanna Fox so affectionately referred to us doing this interview, back in November of 2021... and it's been way too long so hopefully we'll be seeing her again soon!

Ash and former co-host Cam, and former audio engineer Evette, sat down with forensic psychologist, former FBI Special Agent, and now star of her OWN show on Hulu called The Lesson Is Murder (and all around total badass), Dr. Fox.

Her research focuses on the identification of psychological and developmental risk factors for criminal behavior and prolific offending, experimental field research and evidence-based policing and crime prevention strategies.Bryanna talked with the gals about MKUltra, Ted Kaczynski, her new book, the ethics surrounding risk assessment and predictive profiling, and so much more!

Make sure to listen to our episodes on MKUltra and Ted Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber, with updates, before or after this!


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This week we're going way back to November 2021... and the 1950's. If you haven't yet heard, Ted Kaczynski, a victim of MKUltra experiments and the man notoriously known as "the Unabomber" died by suicide on June 10, 2023. Ash and former co-host Cam, along with former audio engineer Evette, discuss the heinous government experiments known as MKUltra, which Ash and Cam believe turned Ted Kaczynski into the terrorist that he became.

Tune in tomorrow for Cam's episode about Ted with an update from Ash and Ali!

Back in the 1950s, during the Cold and Korean Wars, the C.I.A. were a paranoid government agency, terrified of Communism and being the last in the global race to control the human mind. The C.I.A. went on a decades long mission to see if they could break and control the mind via LSD and other drugs, torture techniques including physical, emotional, mental and sexual abuse, and various other "brainwashing" techniques... on some knowing, and many unknowing and unconsenting, American and Canadian citizens; often looking for those that they found "expendable".


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-Sources:

• Mind Control Experimentation: A Travesty of Human Rights in the United States
• MKUltra Wikipedia
• MK/Svr:Chris DeNicola
• The Minds of Men | Official Documentary by Aaron & Melissa Dykes on YouTube
• The CIA's Secret Quest For Mind Control: Torture, LSD And A 'Poisoner In Chief'
• ‘Stranger Things’: The Secret CIA Programs That Inspired Hit Series
• Compensation for CIA-funded brainwashing experiments paid out to victim's daughter 60 years later
• The Hidden Tragedy of the CIA’s Experiments on Children
• Sex, Drugs, the CIA, MIND CONTROL and Your Children

Hey Huns! This month, TSFU Presents: MLM Mayhem! Ash and GURU level Patron, TSFU team member and generally amazing friend of the show, Fallon Morey, give you the low down on these predatory "businesses".

This week, Ash and Fallon talk about the OG of MLMs. Amway. What do they sell? All kinds of bullshirt ranging from cleaning products to energy drinks to Evangelical Christianity. And of course the ultimate dream of financial freedom and living your best life as an IBO (Independent Business Operator). Hop in kids, this one's a wild ride!


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-Sources:

• https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1984/01/22/rearranging-amway-event-for-reagan/b3e74482-5ce0-4d20-9f98-ebdc9b4d4918/
• https://seanmungerhistory.substack.com/p/the-tools-cult-the-history-of-the-bdc
• www.amway.com.
• https://www.salon.com/2014/05/18/the_evangelical_presidency_reagans_dangerous_love_affair_with_the_christian_right/
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway

This week Ash and Alex take a break from their regular programming to talk about the landmark case that not only exposed many of Scientology's worst practices, but also brought justice to Danny Masterson's rape victims. He's been charged with TWO counts of forcible rape and will be spending a minimum of the next 30 years behind bars! It's an amazing week for all SA survivors!

MAJOR TRIGGER WARNING... shit gets real.


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Hey Huns! This month, TSFU Presents: MLM Mayhem! Ash and GURU level Patron, TSFU team member and generally amazing friend of the show, Fallon Morey, give you the low down on these predatory "businesses".

In their first episode, the gals talk about just exactly what an MLM is... hint: it stands for multi-level marketing and it's a fancy term for a pyramid scheme. They also chat about some of the OG MLMs, pitfalls of being in one, scandals and true crime connections, and how MLMs are suuuper culty.


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-Sources:

• https://pureromance.com/pages/income-disclosure
• https://www.ecosecretariat.org/younique-mlm-review/
• file:///C:/Users/fallo/Downloads/J2007079-eStart30-Flier-en-US.pdf
• https://einsteinshrugged-92813.medium.com/mlm-true-crime-three-murders-from-the-world-of-mlms-7265eb94fbe6
• https://www.mentalfloss.com/posts/holiday-magic-pyramid-scheme
• https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/multi-level-marketing-friendships
• https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-mind/202201/multi-level-marketing-groups-operate-much-cults
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_schemes_in_Albania
• https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2000/03/jarvis.htm
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI

This week Ali tells Ash about the disappearance and death of model, socialite and internet celebrity, Abby Choi.

Abby came from a wealthy family and rose to Instagram celebrityhood showing off her fabulous wardrobe and luxurious lifestyle. Abby was also incredibly generous with her money, sadly, to a point that it would end her life. She disappeared on February 21st, 2023 and was discovered in a Hong Kong Airbnb with a Dexter-esque "kill room" a couple of days later.


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-Sources:

• https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/abby-choi-socialite-model-hong-kong-murder-arrests-3308376
• https://styleonthedot.com/2023/03/20/the-making-of-abby-choi/
• https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/3211638/4-suspects-murder-hong-kong-model-abby-choi-remanded-custody-after-appearing-court
• https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/3211664/last-days-abby-choi-timeline-hong-kong-model-murder-plot-linked-suspected-property-dispute
• https://babelfish.mothership.sg/abby-choi-timeline/
• https://www.todayonline.com/world/who-was-hong-kong-socialite-abby-choi-body-parts-missing-murder-2117896
• https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/3213173/abby-choi-murder-suspects-who-have-been-arrested-charged-connection-killing-hong-kong-model

In this week's episode Alex tells Ash about levels 0-4 on The Bridge, how the "auditing" process works, going clear and a lot more. And Ash explains the sunk cost fallacy!


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This week, Ash and Dawn of HILF: History I'd Like to Fuck, bring the saga of The People's Temple to an end with the infamous Jonestown Massacre.

The gals wrap things up with Jones' continued spiral into drug addiction and madness, his start of the constant midnight ritual suicide "white night drills", Congressman Leo Ryan's arrival and the fateful day in which the US lost the most civilian lives prior to 9/11, in a mass killing and suicide.

TW: consistent talk about suicide.


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• https://www.dawnbrodey.com/

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-Sources:

• Forty years after the Jonestown massacre, a new book chronicles the deep ties between the depraved cult leader Jim Jones and prominent Democratic politicians. | City Journal (city-journal.org)
• Jonestown - Wikipedia
• https://www.hulu.com/series/truth-and-lies-jonestown-paradise-lost-fd3b83b5-35dc-4089-bd74-a11b1697ee86
• https://www.amazon.com/Undaunted-Surviving-Jonestown-Summoning-Fighting/dp/1503903605
• https://www.amazon.com/Road-Jonestown-Jones-Peoples-Temple/dp/1476763828
• https://www.lesliewagnerwilson.org/
• https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=28703
• https://time.com/6120017/jonestown-massacre-survivors/
• https://time.com/longform/jonestown-aftermath/

This week Ali tells Ash about serial killer Dennis Nilsen aka "The Muswell Hill Murderer" (aka the Scottish Jeffrey Dahmer). Nilsen was a necrophile who primarily preyed on, and murdered, at least 12, possibly 16 or more, young homeless and/or homosexual males between 1978 and 1983. He also attempted at least 7 other murders, which were unsuccessful... as was the way that he disposed of the bodies.


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-Sources:

• https://www.grunge.com/491057/the-truth-about-serial-killer-dennis-nilsens-childhood/
• https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/tragic-story-kenneth-ockenden-how-22687397
• https://www.grunge.com/491057/the-truth-about-serial-killer-dennis-nilsens-childhood/
• https://www.thewrap.com/memories-of-a-murderer-the-dennis-nilsen-tapes-serial-killer-netflix-documentary/
• https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a37331971/memories-of-a-murderer-dennis-nilsen-now/
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Nilsen
• https://www.aberdeenlive.news/news/aberdeen-news/dennis-nilsen-life-terrifying-aberdeenshire-7425315
• https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen-aberdeenshire/1084492/dennis-nilsen-a-timeline-of-his-life/

This week Apostate Alex brings Ash further up The Bridge to TOTAL Freedom and things get even nuttier... like, real nutty. But also, how good does total freedom sound?! And it's not expensive or torturous at all!


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