"I remember you kind of making this decision to turn The Speaker Lab into what it is today. You wanted to scale it, you wanted to grow it, make a bigger impact on people, and you really did, man." - Shane Sams

Today we’re celebrating a massive milestone on The Speaker Lab Podcast, so, here’s the deal! We invited Grant's good friend Shane Sams to interview Grant about his speaking journey, how The Speaker Lab came into existence, and what it’s been like to podcast for oh, you know, almost a decade.

As we celebrate this episode, we want to thank each and every one of you who have subscribed, listened to the show, and shared it with others over the years. We couldn't have published 500 episodes without your support. We're not going anywhere, either — stayed tuned for more exciting news ahead! 

In this conversation, you’ll get a peek behind the scenes as they discuss:

• 00:00 What was your dream for this podcast when you started it? 
• 05:36 Grant’s intro to podcasting and the start of the Speaker Lab dream.
• 08:49 “But how do you actually book a gig?” 
• 10:56 How Grant evaluated and then iterated his first course.
• 13:34 Grant’s shift from speaker to teacher, to coach. 
• 17:05 The early and long-standing speaking connections Grant made. 
• 19:44 Grant reflects on the ripple effects of the impact speaking makes for people.
• 23:55 How Grant transitioned from church work to Speaker Lab.
• 28:04 The importance of creating deep relationships to grow your speaking career.
• 31:41 Grant’s take on being genuine, helpful, and intentional when networking. 
• 34:37 Shane’s personal experience with Grant’s above-average care for the people in his network. 
• 36:32 A real story of learning from others and building great relationships that lead to growth.

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