The Bookkeepers' Podcast

A bookkeeper doesn't always need a pitch to win a client, sometimes a single conversation is enough. In this episode, we unpack a real story where offering free value, with zero intention to sell, turned into a brand new client for a bookkeeper.

We get into:

- Why giving value freely can work better than any sales pitch

- How a bookkeeper can position their fees once trust is already there

- The mindset shift that helped one bookkeeper stop "selling" and start connecting

If you're a bookkeeper wondering how to bring in clients without feeling salesy, this episode shows exactly how it can happen.

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About us

We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective

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About our Sponsor

This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper

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The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:00:19 - Encounter at the Pub

00:00:58 - Connecting with Business Partners

00:08:10 - Commercial Awareness and Running a Business

00:14:58 - Consulting on Business Development

00:15:09 - Personal Development and Business Insights

00:16:56 - Expanding Horizons through Coaching and Reading

00:17:53 - Embracing Systems and Frameworks in Business

00:20:10 - Positive Mindset and Personal Growth

00:22:48 - Creating Value and Business Insights

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Most bookkeepers think using AI more is always the win. In this episode, we sit down with marketing expert Chris James to break down the exact AI habit that's quietly costing bookkeeper practices their best clients, and why more automation isn't always more leverage.

We cover:

The AI mistake every bookkeeper should avoid

Why some bookkeepers are working harder despite using AI

The "human in the middle" rule Chris uses with every bookkeeper client

What bookkeeper marketing will look like by 2029

Connect with Chris

➡️ / chrisjamesonline

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About us

We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective

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About our Sponsor

This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6fig...

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The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

Chapters:

00:00:00 - The AI Habit Costing a Bookkeeper Their Clients

00:01:33 - How Chris Helps Experts Grow

00:03:25 - Building an AI-Powered Client Tracking App

00:05:52 - Making AI Development Accessible

00:10:01 - Using Data and AI as Business Leverage

00:13:12 - Why AI Should Not Write Your Content

00:13:59 - Turning Client Conversations Into Marketing Ideas

00:17:50 - Why AI-Generated Content Feels Beige

00:21:04 - Helping a Child Write With AI

00:25:26 - Keeping Humans in the Creative Process

00:27:37 - Where AI Automation Actually Saves Time

00:29:32 - Automating Repeatable Client Workflows

00:32:15 - LinkedIn Reach and the Changing Algorithm

00:36:54 - How to Become a Favorite Creator

00:39:00 - Turning LinkedIn Engagement Into Clients

00:41:15 - Creating Content for Potential Customers

00:43:56 - Using Purpose-Built AI Without Losing the Human

00:46:13 - Why Everyone Already Has a Personal Brand

00:47:45 - Building Your Personal Brand Like a Movie

00:49:15 - Your First 90 Days on LinkedIn

00:49:43 - Start With Warm Contacts, Not Cold Outreach

00:51:35 - Using Customer Conversations to Shape Content

00:52:04 - Building an AI-Powered Business Advisory Platform

00:54:48 - Why YouTube Builds Lasting Trust

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As a Bookkeeper, are you up to date with what it takes to exit your business? It's a topic a bookkeeper could do with maximum clarity on.

In this episode of the Bookkeeper's Podcast, we sit down with Dr Vivienne Heyhoe, founder of WellSpring and an expert in business exits.

She shares her journey, and her insights on preparing your business for a successful exit.

Connect with Vivienne on LinkedIn

➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/drviv/

Is your Business Sellable?

➡️ https://wellspringindex.co.uk/

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About us

We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective

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About our Sponsor

This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper

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Disclaimer

The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

Chapters:

00:00:00 - What a Bookkeeper Gets WRONG About Selling Their Business

00:00:47 - Vivian’s Career and Business Exit Story

00:04:21 - The PROFIT Framework for an Exit-Ready Business

00:09:02 - Exit Options for Sole-Practitioner Bookkeepers

00:11:55 - How Bookkeepers Can Guide Clients Toward an Exit

00:13:52 - Selling a Bookkeeping Practice Earlier Than Planned

00:16:48 - Understanding Angel, Venture Capital, and Private Equity Investment

00:22:32 - Bookkeepers as Trusted Business Advisors

00:24:58 - Exit-Ready KPIs, Clean Books, and Valuation Multiples

00:28:03 - How Business Risk Reduces the Sale Price

00:30:15 - Outcome-Based Pricing and the Value of Bookkeeping

00:32:22 - Choosing to Become a Growth-Focused Bookkeeper

00:33:11 - Vivian’s Next Ventures and Exit-Readiness Scorecard

00:34:19 - How to Connect and Assess Your Exit Readiness

Summer's over, and it's time for a Bookkeeper catch-up! In this episode, we dive into our experiences over the hot months, from unexpected reunions to the challenges of keeping cool.

We discuss everything from gardening as a new hobby to the stress of life changes, including divorce and moving houses

It's been a whirlwind, and we share our thoughts on how to manage anxiety and find control amidst chaos.

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About us

We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective

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About our Sponsor

This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper

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Disclaimer

The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

Chapters:

00:00:00 - This Bookkeeper Cut Her Bill by 89%

00:02:45 - Gardening, Work-Life Balance, and Preparing for the Future

00:05:58 - Solar Power, Sustainability, and Lessons from COVID

00:09:55 - Divorce, Moving House, and a Difficult Summer

00:13:27 - Coping by Focusing on What You Can Control

00:15:10 - Managing News, Politics, and What You Can Control

00:16:56 - Wildfires, Emergency Alerts, and Fire Safety

00:19:05 - Wearable Health Trackers and Stress Management

00:23:34 - Health Scans as a Model for Financial Advisory

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Making Tax Digital is here, but what happens next could matter even more for every bookkeeper.

In this episode, Zoe looks at what happened during the first MTD for Income Tax quarterly submissions, what bookkeeper practices experienced, and why preparation made the process much easier than many expected.

But there’s a bigger challenge ahead. From April 2027, missed quarterly deadlines will begin attracting penalty points, with a £200 fine once four points have accumulated. More businesses will also be brought into MTD as the threshold changes.

For every bookkeeper, now is the time to prepare clients, improve processes and make sure MTD can be handled efficiently every quarter.

Whether you’re a bookkeeper who sailed through the first submission or a bookkeeper who found it overwhelming, this episode explores what you can learn from the first deadline and how to prepare your practice for what comes next.

Read more about MTD here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/making-tax-digital-for-income-tax-business-population-statistics

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About us

We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective

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About our Sponsor

This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper

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Disclaimer

The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

Chapters:

00:00:00 - The Looming Threat a Bookkeeper CAN'T AFFORD to Ignore

00:02:20 - HMRC’s Filing Numbers and the Work Ahead

00:04:57 - What Bookkeepers Actually Experienced

00:07:36 - Why Preparation Made Filing Easier

00:09:31 - Redesigning Practice Processes for Every Quarter

00:10:53 - Mapping Workflows for Scale and Automation

00:14:13 - Build a Repeatable Business for the Future

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The bookkeeper hiring model is changing. AI, rising employment costs and the disappearance of traditional entry-level work are making it harder for a bookkeeper practice to hire and train the next generation.

In this episode, I explore why work experience matters, where qualifications fall short, and how every bookkeeper can rethink training in a world where new hires are expected to add value faster.

Whether you’re hiring, training or building your career as a bookkeeper, this is a problem the profession needs to solve.

The future of the bookkeeper workforce starts with giving people the experience they need to succeed.

Start your FREE Trial at HeyMonika

➡️ https://heymonika.com/

Find out about BDO’s research into Social Mobility

and read the Young Minds 2026 Report, here

➡️ https://www.bdo.co.uk/en-gb/about/social-mobility

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About us

We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective

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About our Sponsor

This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper

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Disclaimer

The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

Chapters:

00:00:00 - The Bookkeeper Hiring Crisis NOBODY Is Talking About

00:02:40 - The Unequal Access to Work Experience

00:04:58 - Careers Advice Is Being Replaced by AI and Social Media

00:07:05 - University, Apprenticeships, and Conflicting Career Messages

00:09:27 - My Route from University to Trainee Accountant

00:11:14 - Career Paths in Bookkeeping and Accountancy

00:14:13 - Why Professional Qualifications Still Matter

00:15:00 - Why Qualifications Alone Are Not Enough

Every bookkeeper learns lessons along the way, but some mistakes can cost you years.

In this episode, we share real stories about building a business, overcoming challenges, managing money and creating more freedom. Whether you’re a new bookkeeper or an experienced bookkeeper, these lessons will help you think differently about your business and your future.

If you’re a bookkeeper looking to grow with more confidence, add this episode to your watchlist!

Connect with Olly

➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/ollywhitman/

Connect with Trudie

➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/trudie-howman/

Connect with Stuart

➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuart-hurst-cloud/

Connect with Bella

➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/financialplanninglady/

Connect with Will

➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/willpolston/

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About us

We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective

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About our Sponsor

This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper

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Disclaimer

The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

Chapters:

00:00:00 - How Failure Shapes the Future

00:01:13 - Trudy Howman’s Accidental Bookkeeping Business

00:04:24 - From Surviving to Becoming a Business Owner

00:06:07 - Stuart Hurst’s Unconventional Route into Accounting

00:08:24 - How Retail Experience Builds Resilient Leaders

00:11:40 - The Personal Story Behind Stuart’s Financial Mission

00:15:56 - Bella Clark on Making Financial Advice Approachable

00:19:26 - From the Financial Crash to Financial Adviser

00:21:09 - Building a Business Through Networking and Experimentation

00:23:31 - Ollie Whitman on Experience, Confidence, and Self-Employment

00:26:40 - How Cancer Transformed Ollie’s Life and Career

00:30:44 - Creative Confidence and Believing in Your Value

00:32:34 - Will Poston on Thinking Bigger in Business

00:33:48 - How Childhood Shaped Will’s Beliefs About Money

00:36:13 - The Secret and the Power of Visualization

00:37:12 - Using Goal-Setting to Expand What’s Possible

00:40:07 - Taking Complete Responsibility for Your Life

00:41:49 - Join the Bookkeepers Collective

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Making Tax Digital is here. Is your bookkeeper practice ready?

In this episode, we bring together expert advice on what MTD means for a bookkeeper, how to prepare your clients, adapt your services and turn the changes into an opportunity for growth.

From pricing and software to client conversations and compliance, this is a practical guide for any bookkeeper navigating MTD. If you’re a bookkeeper preparing for the changes ahead, start here.

Connect With Kate

➡️ linkedin.com/in/kate-hayward-77ab6848

Connect with Craig

➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-ogilvie-1829064a/

Connect with Julie

➡️ https://www.holliesbookkeeping.co.uk/

Connect with Chris

➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-downing/

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About us

We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective

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About our Sponsor

This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper

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Disclaimer

The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

Chapters:

00:00:00 - The Best of Making Tax Digital

00:00:26 - What MTD Is and Why It Matters

00:05:42 - National Priorities and the Role of Bookkeepers

00:08:06 - Designing MTD Around Real Business Owners

00:12:06 - How MTD Changes Bookkeeping Services

00:13:39 - Framing MTD's Value and Giving Clients a Choice

00:16:23 - MTD Deadlines and New Agent Registration

00:19:47 - Preparing a Bookkeeping Practice for MTD

00:21:41 - Moving Clients to Cloud Software

00:24:16 - Choosing MTD Software and Service Packages

00:27:12 - Onboarding Clients and Encouraging Separate Bank Accounts

00:30:27 - Why Bookkeepers Need to Be More Visible

00:32:00 - The Accountant–Bookkeeper Partnership

00:32:54 - How Real-Time Software Wins Over Clients

00:33:57 - Closing and the Bookkeepers Collective

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How should a modern bookkeeper price their services? In this episode, we explore why the traditional hourly model no longer works, how a bookkeeper can price with confidence, and why delivering value should always come before competing on price.

Whether you’re a new bookkeeper or an experienced bookkeeper, you’ll discover practical advice to help you build a more profitable bookkeeper business, have better pricing conversations, and charge for the value you create rather than the time you spend.

Connect With Matthew

➡️ www.mplusaccountancy.com

Connect With Nadia

➡️ https://birdsongaccountancy.co.uk/

Connect With Jack

➡️ uk.linkedin.com/in/jack-choppin-14670944

Connect With Kate

➡️ linkedin.com/in/kate-hayward-77ab6848

Connect With Julie

➡️ https://www.holliesbookkeeping.co.uk/

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About us

We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective

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About our Sponsor

This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper

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Disclaimer

The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Why the Old Pricing Model Must Change

00:00:39 - Matthew Meston: Building Confidence and Pricing Structures

00:04:31 - Nadia Gibbs: Transactional and Value-Based Pricing

00:06:28 - Repricing Clients and Making Room for Better Ones

00:07:09 - Jack's Framework for Sales and Client Success

00:09:12 - The Shock and Awe Pack

00:10:27 - Creating an Exceptional Free-Trial Experience

00:12:43 - Scaling Generosity and Creating Raving Fans

00:16:04 - Kate Hayward: Balancing Xero's Pricing and Customer Value

00:18:34 - Financial Literacy and the Value of Real-Time Insights

00:19:37 - Julie Williams: Starting and Growing Her Practice

00:21:46 - Building the Right Technology Stack

00:23:43 - Moving Beyond Time-Based Pricing

#bookkeeper

Every bookkeeper has the opportunity to become more than just a compliance provider.

In this episode, we explore how a bookkeeper can become a trusted finance partner, build a premium practice, deliver more value to clients, and use AI to strengthen the role of the modern bookkeeper.

If you’re a bookkeeper looking to future-proof your business, this episode is for you.

Nadia Gibbs

➡️ https://birdsongaccountancy.co.uk/

Trudie Howman

➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/trudie-howman/

Kate Hayward

➡️ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-hayward-77ab6848/

Matthew Meston

➡️ www.mplusaccountancy.com

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About us

We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective

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About our Sponsor

This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting:

https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper

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Disclaimer

The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

Chapters:

00:00:00 - How Every Bookkeeper Becomes a Finance Partner

00:00:22 - The Importance of Understanding Numbers

00:00:42 - The Role of Bookkeepers and Accountants

00:00:58 - Interview with Kate Hayward

00:01:21 - The Challenges of Small Businesses

00:09:15 - The Role of Technology and AI in Bookkeeping

00:11:42 - Interview with Nadia Gibbs

00:14:28 - Interview with Trudie Howman

00:15:29 - The Value of Personalised Bookkeeping Services

00:16:36 - Interviewee's Success Stories

00:16:50 - The Myth of Trade-offs in Client Satisfaction

00:17:40 - The Role of Bookkeepers as Financial Advisors

00:20:47 - Interview with Matthew Meston

00:21:00 - Accountability in Bookkeeping

00:21:56 - The Value of Consistent Business Analysis

00:25:34 - The Future of Matthew's Business

00:25:55 - Conclusion

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