The HRT University® Podcast

The Cash-Pay HRT Practice: What Actually Works


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This week I'm switching from clinical to business. I want to talk about the stuff nobody told me when I was building my own clinic. Apollo Health Optimization is three years in now, and it's been the best decision of my life, professionally and personally. Most providers approach building a cash-pay HRT clinic backwards. They start with the brand, the marketing, the website, and treat the clinical work as something they'll catch up on once patients are flowing in. The clinical foundation is not a prerequisite for the business. It IS the business.

In this episode I walk through the mug analogy, the surgeon analogy, why patients can feel the difference between real clinical mastery and the performance of it, and why my friend Ashley got 200 patients in her first year doing almost no traditional marketing. I get into the donut-shop comparison for why word of mouth runs medicine, the brick-and-mortar to virtual transition I made at Apollo, why geography is now irrelevant for a cash-pay HRT clinic, and the predatory equipment sales and marketing agencies you should not be writing checks to in year one. I close with the four-step sequence I'd follow if I were starting today: clinical mastery, then reps with patients, then a practice model that emerges from the clinical work, then the brand on top of all of it.

If you're a provider weighing the move out of insurance, or you've already made it and the practice isn't building the way you thought it would, this one is for you.


00:00 Switching from clinical to business, the stuff nobody told me01:32 Apollo three years in, the best decision of my life02:14 The Field of Dreams approach and why providers get it backwards04:08 The clinical foundation IS the business05:10 The mug analogy06:46 Built on clinical depth, no traditional marketing07:11 The surgeon analogy, why patients can feel confidence08:30 My friend Ashley and 200 patients in year one08:57 What happens when you fake it for too long09:41 My NP school primary care rotation11:54 Studying hormones obsessively, building the framework12:33 Hormones as a symphony, not separate parts14:26 Word of mouth in medicine vs. the donut shop16:40 Patients call it Nico's Place18:59 The brick-and-mortar to virtual transition20:31 Geography is irrelevant, patients fly in from everywhere22:53 Predatory laser and ultrasound reps23:56 Step one of the sequence: clinical foundation, for real25:01 Step two: actually treat patients, competency builds confidence27:10 Step three: let the practice model emerge from the clinical work29:04 Step four: build the brand last, the whiteboard story31:20 Mastery, practice model, marketing, in that order

The HRT University(R) Master Course is jointly accredited through Pinnacle Conference LLC (ACCME, ACPE, ANCC) for 30 CE hours including 12 hours of pharmacology. Course: https://bit.ly/4twBb0D. Newsletter: https://nicomislenp.kit.com/8050eeea5f. Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1179376819949373/.

About the host. Nico Misleh, MSN, FNP-C, is a nurse practitioner, the founder of HRT University, and the owner of Apollo Health Optimization.

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