CLIMBers, ALL artists want to be heard. That's why we do this. We want to reach people. But there's a difference between being streamed and being heard....

Are you conflating the two? That's what we're going to dig into today, y'all.

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more.  He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros.  You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and  SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others.  You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com!

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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CLIMBer, have you ever met somebody who thinks they're the next big thing - but they suck and they don't even know it? Well, that is the Dunning-Kruger effect at work. It's a real thing. It's all over the place, and you do NOT want to be its next victim. So today, we're diving into how overconfidence can sabotage your music career and how to avoid being that guy or girl.

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more.  He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros.  You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and  SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others.  You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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Brent & Johnny welcome a longtime friend, Anthony Orio, to The Challenge, where they cook up 5-6 different conceptual angles for writing a song titled "Broken Lines," sent in by CLIMBer, Andrea Shihady.

Anthony Orio is a singer/songwriter who was featured in ASCAP's Hot On The Row series, he's performed at The Grand Ole Opry, The Ryman Auditorium, The Bluebird Cafe, he and his band The Goodfellers have remained a top draw on Broadway at the World Famous Tootsie's Orchid Lounge and Kid Rock's and they were named "Best Band In Nashville" four consecutive years in a row by the Tennessean's Toast of Music City Awards.

Anthony has succeeded as a songwriter with cuts by Grammy award-winning country music legend Ray Stevens, former RCA recording artist Andy Griggs, and Curb Records' Tim Duggar.

Connect with Anthony Orio Here:

Facebook: @AnthonyOrioMusic

Instagram: @AnthonyOrio

YouTube: @AnthonyOrio

Spotify: @AnthonyOrio

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more.  He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros.  You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and  SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others.  You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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Here's the thing: after multiple record deals, their greatest successes came when they WEREN'T on a label!

Brent & Johnny welcome lead vocalist for the acclaimed Christian band, Sanctus Real. They are celebrated for their authentic lyrics, powerful performances, and they've earned eight number-one singles, including "Lead Me" and "My God Is Still the Same," multiple Grammy nominations, Dove Awards, and a gold-certified single. Their newest song, "The Difference," resonates deeply, offering hope and transformation through music.

Connect With Dustin Lolli and Sanctus Real Here:

Facebook: @SanctusRealMusic

Instagram: @SanctusReal

YouTube: @SanctusRealMusic

Spotify: @SanctusReal

Apple Music: @SanctusReal

Website: SanctusReal.com

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more.  He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros.  You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and  SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others.  You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com!

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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Rebecca Lynn Howard is a powerhouse vocalist, acclaimed songwriter, and dynamic multi-instrumentalist known for her unmistakable Appalachian twang and captivating stage presence. She burst onto the country music scene with her 2002 hit single, "Forgive."

Now, after eight years, she returns with her highly anticipated new album produced by Elisha Hoffman and executive produced by country artist Lee Bryce on Pump House Records. Her latest single, "Seventeen," surpassed 1 million views on YouTube in just 10 days. And our guest has earned admiration from legendary artists such as Dolly Parton and Steven Tyler of Aerosmith, with whom she has toured as a bassist and backing vocalist.

Follow Rebecca Lynn Howard Here:

Facebook: @rebeccalynnhowardofficial  

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more.  He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros.  You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and  SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others.  You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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Johnny & Brent welcome LEGENDARY hit songwriter, artist, and author, Radney Foster (Keith Urban, The Chicks, Brooks & Dunn, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Hootie & The Blowfish, Kenny Loggins, Los Lonely Boys, George Benson), to Song Title Challenge where they create 5-6 different conceptual angles for a song titled, "Taste Of Mercy," sent in by CLIMBer and SongwritingPro.com member, Fred Kitchen.

If you want to write like a pro, these episodes show you how the pros think! So listen up.

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at ⁠SongwritingPro.com/Baxter⁠ and ⁠SongwritingPro.com⁠.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at ⁠TheCLIMBshow.com⁠.

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CLIMB Classics: "If you're in a band..." this episode is a must-RE-listen! Mark Maxwell of the legendary Louisville band, The Crashers, reveals game-changing advice for anyone who wants to start a band or take their existing band to the next level. We're sharing Mark's wisdom because we want you to win. So listen up!

Follow Maxwell's House Of Music to see all these tips from his viral content!

Facebook - ⁠@MaxwellsHouseOfMusic⁠

Instagram - ⁠@MaxwellsHouseOfMusic⁠

TikTok - ⁠@MaxwellsHouseOfMusic⁠

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists, and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at ⁠SongwritingPro.com/Baxter⁠ and ⁠SongwritingPro.com⁠.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV, and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell, and others. You can find Johnny at ⁠TheCLIMBshow.com⁠.

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This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com!

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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