CLIMBers! How much could you learn listening to the former manager of the most successful artist on the planet today? Find out in this episode as we interview former Taylor Swift Manager, Rick Barker.

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About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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Brent & Johnny welcome hit songwriter, Dan Demay, (Joie & Rory, Tracy Bird, Darryl Worley, Martina McBride, Tracy Lawrence) to The Challenge to dream up 5-6 different conceptual approaches to writing a song titled "Still Looking," sent in by CLIMBer, Jennifer Katusha.

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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CLIMBer, Ashley Gorley, Diane Warren, Tom Douglas, Max Martin: They're some of the greatest songwriters in history, and we're diving into some of their best quotes about songwriting today on The CLIMB. So listen up!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com!

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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CLIMBers, I don't want to see you make the same, all-too-common, promotion mistakes I see indie artists and the music industry making...

Every.

Single.

Day.

This episode is going to change everything.

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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Brent & Johnny welcome hit songwriter with six #1's (Rodney Atkins, Reba McEntire, George Strait, Alabama, The Oak Ridge Boys, and more), Steve Dean, to the Challenge where they create 5-6 different conceptual angles for a song titled, "People Pleaser," sent in by CLIMBer, Lauren Ann Yule.

If you want to WRITE like a pro, you need to THINK like a pro, and these episodes show you how the pros think. So listen up.

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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Johnny & Brent welcome Hit Songwriter with TEN #1's (Randy Travis, Diamond Rio, Lee Roy Parnell, ZZ Top, Black Stone Cherry, Faith Hill, Leann Rimes, Lynyrd Skynyrd Trisha Yearwood, Reba McEntire, Carrie Underwood, Duff McKagan) and Hit Producer, Trey Bruce, to the pod. Trey signed The Brothers Osbourne and Chris Janson among others.

Connect With Our Guest, Trey Bruce Here:

Instagram: @MusicLoveWar

Website: TreyBruce.com

LinkedIn: @TreyBruce

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com!

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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CLIMBers, today we're joined by the incredibly talented soul-inspired pop singer, songwriter, worship leader, and producer who radiates joy through her music. She's a classically trained pianist with a signature blend of jazz, funk, and pop. She has toured with artists like Chris Tomlin, Jeremy Camp, and We The Kingdom. She's also headlined full band sets at Bonnaroo, twice, and was named a Pandora Artist To Watch.

With her Centricity music debut album All Joy set to drop on February 21st, our guest is here to share some insights about songwriting the business of being a Christian artist, and how she stays grounded in her faith while creating music that inspires so heads up. We're talking with Natalie Layne today!

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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Johnny & Brent welcome emerging Nashville songwriter, Kris Crepeau to the Challenge, where they craft 5-6 different conceptual angles for writing a song entitled "Growth Rings," sent in by CLIMBer, Levena Stewart. He writes during the day and works at the Bluebird Cafe at night. He has several cuts with up-and-coming independent artists. He has written with several hit writers including Mark Irwin, Adam James, Brian Davis, Josh Phillips, Marty Dotson, Clay Mills, and Matt Rogers.

We want you to win, and that’s why we host The C.L.I.M.B. Show. And here’s a chance for YOU to help US win! The C.L.I.M.B. Show has been nominated for an Arkansas Country Music Award in the "Best Publication/Blog/Podcast" category, and we would really appreciate your vote.

The voting window is from March 1 to 14th, 2025, and you can vote for The CLIMB at

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If this podcast has helped you, this is a way you can help us back. Thanks, y’all - and keep on CLIMBing! 

The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win!

About the hosts:

Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the pros. You can find Brent at SongwritingPro.com/Baxter and SongwritingPro.com.

Johnny Dwinell owns Daredevil Production and helps artists increase their streams, blow up their video views, sell more live show tickets, and get discovered by new fans, TV and music industry pros. Daredevil has worked with artists including Collin Raye, Tracy Lawrence, Ty Herndon, Ronnie McDowell and others. You can find Johnny at TheCLIMBshow.com.

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