Ep 95 - Dr. Kathleen M. O'Conner "Lamentations and the Tears of the World" by Adam Narloch & John Williamson

Guest Info/Bio: This week we’re very excited because our guest is Dan Haseltine! Dan is best known as the lead singer of the multi-platinum, Grammy Award-winning band Jars of Clay. We talk about everything from how Jars of Clay got their start to his work helping to bring clean water to places in need. Beyond his work as a musician, Dan is also co-founder of the non-profit organization, Blood:Water Mission. Blood:Water Mission works as an equipping agency that partners with African grassroots organizations to address the water and HIV/AIDS crises. Dan is a regular writer and speaker about worship music, HIV/AIDS in Africa, social justice, and church reform. His is also a regular columnist for Relevant Magazine, and has contributed articles to Moody, CCM Magazine, Christianity Today, World Vision, Campus Life, and Beliefnet. Guest Social Media: www.jarsofclay.com www.bloodwater.org Facebook: @jarsofclay Twitter: @jarsofclay & @scribblepotemus Special Music By: Jars of Clay Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Silence” from the album, The Eleventh Hour “All My Tears” from the album, Good Monsters “Weapons” & “Hero” from the album, The Long Fall Back to Earth “Left Undone” & “Love in Hard Times” from the album, Inland You can find Jars of Clay’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, Pandora, iHeartRadio, Google Play, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: This week we bring back a dear friend and one of our favorite guests of all time, Dr. Alexander Shaia. One of the things we wanted to do for the listeners, but even more so our friends, was to try our best to paint a picture of the journey that our friend Simon was getting ready to embark on. And so, we called in the expert and the guy who literally wrote the book on it. In fact, Simon had that very book with him when he left for Spain. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did and that you at least get a sense of the power and meaning behind the Camino. Dr. Shaia is an international speaker, author, and teacher. He studied cultural anthropology at Notre Dame University, and also has a PhD in Clinical Psychology. Alexander is the author of the revolutionary book, “Heart and Mind: The Four-Gospel Journey for Radical Transformation.” This episode is dedicated in loving memory to Simon Forsythe. Guest Social Media: www.quadratos.com Facebook: @walkwithheartandmind Special Music By: Rivers & Robots www.riversandrobots.com Facebook: @riversandrobots Twitter: @riversandrobots Instagram: @riversandrobots Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “We have overcome” & “Light Will Dawn” from the album, All Things New; “Home” from the album, The Eternal Son; and “Dreams” & “Discovery” from the album, Discovery, You can find Rivers & Robot’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: This week is a very special and personal episode for us. On November 10, 2018 we lost our dear friend Simon Forsythe. Simon was our pastor, our friend, our very first interview (episode #2), and helped us get this podcast off the ground. This week we speak with Mel, his wife and co-lead pastor of LIFE Church about Simon, their church, and Simon’s legacy. Melanie Forsythe is the Lead Pastor of LIFE Vineyard Church, a vibrant faith community in the heart of Columbus, Ohio. She came to faith in the post-Christian landscape of Australia. There, Melanie was a youth pastor for many years before moving to America alongside her now late husband and co-founder of LIFE Vineyard. In spite of the unexpected loss of her husband in late 2018, Melanie is unapologetically in love with the Gospel, and full of hope and vision for the future of the local church. Her Selah conference, held annually in Columbus reaches women from all walks of life, calling them to live lives of authentic devotion to Jesus. This episode is dedicated in loving memory to Simon. Guest Social Media: www.lifevineyardchurch.com Special Music By: James Truslow Facebook: @Truslowmusic Twitter: @Truslowmusic Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Greater, No Other Name, Overwhelmed, & We Are Yours” from the EP, Celestial. “Lover” from the album Hurricane. You can find Truslow’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: Karen is a former public school teacher and attended Fuller Theological Seminary, where she studied theology and missiology. For the last 11 years, she has been a non-profit professional, currently working for World Relief, an organization that serves immigrants and refugees. She wrote a book about her own immigration story and the many immigrants found in the Bible: The God Who Sees: Immigrants, The Bible, and the Journey to Belong (Herald Press, May 2019). You can find her on Twitter and Instagram musing about theology: @_karenjgonzalez. Her writing can be found on the communal blogs: The Mudroom and The Salt Collective. She is a sought after speaker, who has written about and presented on a variety of topics, including spiritual formation, Latinx identity, race and culture, women in the church, the Enneagram, and immigration. She also has bylines in Sojourners, Christianity Today, The Christian Century, Christ and Pop Culture, and others. (Selected) Guest Publications: The God Who Sees: Immigrants, The Bible, and the Journey to Belong (Herald Press, May 2019). Guest Social Media: www.karen-gonzalez.com Twitter: @_karengonzalez Instagram: @_karengonzalez Special Music By: Jordy Searcy www.jordysearcymusic.com Twitter: @jordysearcymusi Facebook: @jordysearcymusic Instagram: @jordysearcymusic Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Explaining Jesus” & “Rosalyn” from the album, Dark in the City and the new single, “Better.” You can find Jordy’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: And we’re back! We’ve been sitting on this one for a little while now and couldn't wait to get it out to all of you. This week we welcome Dr. Barbara Brown Taylor! Barbara is a best-selling author, teacher, and Episcopal priest. Her first memoir, Leaving Church, won an Author of the Year award from the Georgia Writers Association in 2006. Her next two books, An Altar in the World (2010) and Learning To Walk in the Dark (2015), earned places on the New York Times bestseller list. She has served on faculties of Piedmont College, Columbia Theological Seminary, Candler School of Theology at Emory University, McAfee School of Theology at Mercer University, and the Certificate in Theological Studies program at Arrendale State Prison for Women in Alto, Georgia. In 2014 TIME included her on its annual list of Most Influential People; in 2015 she was named Georgia Woman of the Year; in 2016 she received the President’s Medal at the Chautauqua Institution in New York. (Selected) Guest Publications: When God is Silent; Home By Another Way; Leaving Church: A Memoir of Faith; An Altar in the World: A Geography of Faith; Learning to Walk in the Dark; and Holy Envy: Finding God in the Faith of Others Guest Social Media: www.barbarabrowntaylor.com Facebook: @barbarabrowntaylor Special Music By: Remedy Drive www.remedydrive.com Twitter: @RemedyDrive Facebook: @remedydrive Instagram: @remedydrive Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Disappear, Brighter Than Apathy, and Warlike” from the album, The North Star and the song, “Guide You Home” from the album, Hope’s Not Giving Up. You can find Remedy Drive’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: We finally did it! A second episode AND it’s with our buddy Dr. Pete Enns! Dr. Enns (PhD, Harvard University) is Abram S. Clemens professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, PA. He has taught courses at several other institutions including Harvard University, Fuller Theological Seminary, and Princeton Theological Seminary. Dr. Enns is a biblical scholar, theologian, and author who has written on topics like hermeneutics, the relationship between science and religion, Christianity and evolution, and Old Testament interpretation. He is also a contributor to the Huffington Post and Patheos and a regular blogger at www.peteenns.com (Selected) Guest Publications: The Bible Tells me so…; Inspiration and Incarnation; The Evolution of Adam; Telling God’s Story; The Sin of Certainty; How the Bible Really Works*; and more… Guest Social Media: www.peteenns.com Twitter: @peteenns Facebook: @PeteEnnsAuthor Check out Pete’s podcast The Bible For Normal People anywhere you find your podcasts! It’s terrific! We listen to it, and so should you! Special Music By: Josh Gauton www.joshgauton.com Twitter: @joshgauton Facebook: @joshgauton Instagram: @joshgauton Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Wild Love (ft. Elle Limebear), Time’s Not Wasted, This Side of Heaven, Majesty (O The Mystery), and Cathedral” from the album O, Peace. You can find Josh’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by THE Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information. www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com www.facebook.com/nationalaudiopreservationsociety Twitter: @napsrecording Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

GUEST INFO/BIO: Hello 2019!!! We kick off the year (FINALLY!) with Dr. Thomas Jay Oord. Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He is an award-winning author, and he has written or edited more than twenty books. Lord has won the Outstanding Faculty Award twelve times as professor of Northwest Nazarene University, Nampa, Idaho. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, relational theology, science and religion, and Wesleyan/Holiness/Church of the Nazarene thought. (SELECT) GUEST PUBLICATIONS: The Nature of Love: A Theology; The Uncontrolling Love of God: An Open and Relational Account of Providence; ReThinking the Bible: Inerrancy, Preaching, Inspiration, Authority, Formation, Archeology, Postmodernism, and More; God Can’t: How to Believe in God and Love After Tragedy, Abuse, and Other Evils. GUEST LINKS/SOCIAL MEDIA: www.thomasjayoord.com Twitter: @thomasjayoord SPECIAL GUEST MUSIC: Cody Fry www.codyfry.com Twitter: @codyfry Facebook: @codyfrymusic Instagram: @codyfry Enjoy the songs? Songs heard throughout the episode were: “Better, Hold On, Go, & A Little More” from the album, Flying and the single, “Vegas.” Go support Cody by grabbing his tunes on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, and anywhere good music is found! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com ! Go there to read our latest blog post, grab a t-shirt, snag a cool pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family. The Deconstructionists Podcast is edit by John Williamson. This episode was produced by George “the alien/human hybrid” Benson. Check out George’s podcast Evangebros! Website designed by Ryan Battles. All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pluig t-shirt designs by Colin Rigsby, Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, & Jason Turner.

Guest Info/Bio: Our final guest of 2018 wrote one of our favorite books of this past year. Dr. Jacqueline Bussie is an award-winning author, professor, theologian, public speaker, and student of life in all its messy beauty. Her books include “Love without Limits (2018) and “Outlaw Christian” (2016), which won the 2017 Gold Medal Illumination Award for Christian Living. Jacqueline teaches religion, theology, and interfaith studies classes at Concordia College in Moorehead, Minnesota, where she also serves as the Director of the Forum on Faith and Life. Guest Social Media: www.jacquelinebussie.com Twitter: @jacquelinbussie Instagram: @jbussie Facebook: @jacqueline.bussie Special Music By: Sleeping at Last www.sleepingatlast.com Twitter: @sleepingatlast Facebook: @sleepingatlast Instagram: @sleepingatlast Enjoy the music? Songs heard on this episode were: “Atlas: Body, Atlas: Heart, Atlas: One, Atlas: Four, & “Mars” from the album, Atlas: Space (Deluxe). You can find Sleeping At Last’s music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found. This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited by John Williamson. It was mixed and produced by George Benson. George is the host of the Evangebro’s podcast available anywhere good podcasts are found! George also once slayed a dragon. He’s the reason we’re all much safer now. Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! We also have brand new coffee mugs in the webstore! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug. T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

GUEST INFO/BIO: This week’s guest is Linda Kay Klein! Linda is a storyteller and social innovator. She is the author of “PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free,” and the founder of Break Free Together. We talk with her all about the impact of the purity movement, the power of sexual shaming in society, and the role of society and the church in helping address sexual violence. (SELECT) GUEST PUBLICATIONS: “PURE: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free” GUEST LINKS/SOCIAL MEDIA: https://lindakayklein.com Twitter: @lindakayklein SPECIAL GUEST MUSIC: https://www.benandnoelle.com Facebook: @BenNoelleKilgore Twitter: @benandnoelle Instagram: @benandnoellekilgore Enjoy the songs? Songs heard throughout the episode were: “Grace Grace; He Made Me, He Loves Me; Oh My Soul; & Draw Me Close” from the album “A Resting Place.” Go forth and find their music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and anywhere good music is found! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab one of our many t-shirt designs, snag a pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson This episode was produced by George Benson. George not only has an amazing beard, but is also hosts his own podcast called Evangebros! Check them out wherever you listen to your podcasts. Website by Ryan Battles All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.