The Deconstructionists

Guest/Bio:

This week we welcome back our friend Tony Jones! Tony is an outdoorsman, theologian, podcaster, and writer. He is the author of the new book The God of Wild Places and contributing writer to several outdoors periodicals. He’s written a dozen books, including Did God Kill Jesus? And The Sacred Way: Spiritual Practices for Everyday Life, developed the iPhone app, hosts the Reverand Hunter Podcast, and teaches at Fuller Theological Seminary and The Loft Literary Center. He writes a weekly newletter on Substack.

Tony is a sought after speaker and consultant in the areas of emerging church, postmodernism, and Christian spirituality, writing, and the outdoors. He served as a consultant on the television show, The Path, and he owns and event planning company, Crucible Creative.

He holds an A.B. from Dartmouth College, an M.Div. from Fuller Theological Seminary, and a Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary.

Guest (Selected) Works:

The New Christians: Dispatches from the Emergent Church; Divine Intervention: Encountering God Through the Ancient Practice of Lectio Divina; Did God Kill Jesus: Searching for Love in History’s Most Famous Execution; The Sacred Way: Spiritual Practices for Everyday Life; The God of Wild Places: Rediscovering the Divine in the Untamed Outdoors

Guest Links:

https://reverendhunter.com

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonestony

IG: @thereverendhunter

Special Theme Music:

Forrest Clay

X: @clay_k

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic

Enjoy the music?

Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!

This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson

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Website by Ryan Battles

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Guest/Bio:

This week we welcome back Anna Gazmarian! Anna holds an MFA in creative writing from the Bennington Writing Seminars. Her essays have been published in The Rumpus, Longreads, The Sun, and The Guardian. We talk all about her brand new book, “Devout: A Memoir of Doubt” and her struggle with mental illness while growing up evangelical.

Guest (Selected) Works:

Devout: A Memoir of Doubt

Guest Links:

https://www.annagazmarian.com/

X: https://x.com/anna_gazmarian

IG: https://www.instagram.com/agazmarian/

Special Theme Music:

Forrest Clay

X: @clay_k

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic

Enjoy the music?

Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!

This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!

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Website by Ryan Battles

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Logos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner

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Guest/Bio:

This week we welcome Anna Gazmarian! Anna holds an MFA in creative writing from the Bennington Writing Seminars. Her essays have been published in The Rumpus, Longreads, The Sun, and The Guardian. We talk all about her brand new book, “Devout: A Memoir of Doubt” and her struggle with mental illness while growing up evangelical.

Guest (Selected) Works:

Devout: A Memoir of Doubt

Guest Links:

https://www.annagazmarian.com/

X: https://x.com/anna_gazmarian

IG: https://www.instagram.com/agazmarian/

Special Theme Music:

Forrest Clay

X: @clay_k

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic

Enjoy the music?

Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!

This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionsts

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner

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Guest/Bio:

This week we welcome back Dr. Benjamin Laird for the second part of our conversation! Dr. Laird serves as Associate Professor of Biblical Studies. He teaches a variety of courses in New Testament and Greek. He’s previously served in various capacities in the church including pastorates in Virginia and Scotland. His doctoral research examined the formation and circulation of the Pauline letter collection in early Christianity.

In part 2 of our conversation we talk all about the books of the New Testament, their formation, and who wrote them.

Guest (Selected) Works:

40 Questions About the Apostle Paul; Creating the Canon: Composition, Controversy, and the Authority of the New Testament; The Pauline Corpus in Early Christianity: Its Formation, Publication, and Circulation; Five Views on the New Testament Canon.

Guest Links:

X: @BPLAIRD1

Special Theme Music:

Forrest Clay

X: @clay_k

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic

Enjoy the music?

Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!

This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionsts

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner

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Guest/Bio:

This week we welcome Dr. Benjamin Laird! Dr. Laird serves as Associate Professor of Biblical Studies. He teaches a variety of courses in New Testament and Greek. He’s previously served in various capacities in the church including pastorates in Virginia and Scotland. His doctoral research examined the formation and circulation of the Pauline letter collection in early Christianity.

In part 1 of our conversation we talk all about the books of the New Testament, their formation, and who wrote them.

Guest (Selected) Works:

40 Questions About the Apostle Paul; Creating the Canon: Composition, Controversy, and the Authority of the New Testament; The Pauline Corpus in Early Christianity: Its Formation, Publication, and Circulation; Five Views on the New Testament Canon.

Guest Links:

X: @BPLAIRD1

Special Theme Music:

Forrest Clay

X: @clay_k

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic

Enjoy the music?

Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!

This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionsts

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Special Theme Music:

Forrest Clay

X: @clay_k

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic

Enjoy the music?

Songs used on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found!

This episode of The Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a pint glass, or follow us on social media! We now have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping!

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionsts

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos & Designs are all created by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner

Guest Info/Bio:

This week’s guest is comedian Doug Smith. Doug is a former Jehovah’s Witness who is searching for silver lining in growing up inside a doomsday cult. We talk about how his family got involved with the Jehovah’s Witnesses and what it was like to walk away. 

Check out Doug’s podcast: Jehovah Boy with Doug Smith

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.dougsmithcomedy.com 

Twitter, Instagram, Tik Tok, & YouTube: @whodougsmith 

Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Twitter: @clay_k

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic 

Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

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Guest Info/Bio:

This week’s guest is Sarah Stankorb! Sarah is the author of the book Disobedient Women, which is a culmination of years reporting on women who used the internet to call out abuse within their evangelical communities. It is a book for and about people of faith and those who have walked away. The deeply researched work gives long-overdue recognition to the women who upturned their lives to speak out boldly, even as they were expected to submit and remain silent. 

Sarah’s articles and essays have appeared in publications including The Washington Post Magazine, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Vogue, Marie Claire, Glamour, O Magazine, Longreads, Catapult, Slate, The Guardian, The Atlantic, The Atavist, CNNMoney, GOOD Magazine, Salon, KIWI, Babble, Geez, The Morning News, DAME Magazine, The Christian Science Monitor, Brain, Child Magazine, Proto, Skirt, Bethesda Magazine, and Cincinnati Magazine. 

Her beat spans politics, the environment, health, technology, religion and cultural commentary. 

Guest (select) publications: Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning. 

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.sarahstankorb.com 

Twitter: @sarahstankorb 

Instagram: @sarahstankorb 

TikTok: @sarahstankorb 

Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Twitter: @clay_k

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic  

Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. We have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping! 

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

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Guest Info/Bio:

This week’s guest is Sarah Stankorb! Sarah is the author of the book Disobedient Women, which is a culmination of years reporting on women who used the internet to call out abuse within their evangelical communities. It is a book for and about people of faith and those who have walked away. The deeply researched work gives long-overdue recognition to the women who upturned their lives to speak out boldly, even as they were expected to submit and remain silent. 

Sarah’s articles and essays have appeared in publications including The Washington Post Magazine, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Vogue, Marie Claire, Glamour, O Magazine, Longreads, Catapult, Slate, The Guardian, The Atlantic, The Atavist, CNNMoney, GOOD Magazine, Salon, KIWI, Babble, Geez, The Morning News, DAME Magazine, The Christian Science Monitor, Brain, Child Magazine, Proto, Skirt, Bethesda Magazine, and Cincinnati Magazine. 

Her beat spans politics, the environment, health, technology, religion and cultural commentary. 

Guest (select) publications: Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning. 

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.sarahstankorb.com 

Twitter: @sarahstankorb 

Instagram: @sarahstankorb 

TikTok: @sarahstankorb 

Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Twitter: @clay_k

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic 

Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. We have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping! 

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

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Guest Info/Bio:

This week’s guest is Dr. Greg Garrett! Greg is a writer, speaker, musician, and professor. He’s the critically acclaimed author of over two dozen books of fiction and nonfiction including his latest, “The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America’s Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity.” 

Greg studied at Oklahoma State University where he received his PhD in English. He then continued his education with post-doctoral studies in Holocaust Studies at the University of Oregon and later received his Masters in Divinity from the Episcopal Theological Seminary of the Southwest in Austin, Texas. 

Guest (select) publications: My Church is NOT Dying: Episopalians in the 21st Century; Crossing Myself: A Story of Spiritual Rebirth; We Get To Carry Each Other: The Gospel According to U2; Holy Superheroes; The Gospel According to Hollywood; The Other Jesus: Rejecting a Religion of Fear for the God of Love; Stories From The Edge: A Theology of Grief; Living With The Living Dead: The Wisdom of the Zombie Apocalypse; Entertaining Judgement: The Afterlife in Popular Imagination; The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America’s Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity 

James Baldwin (select) publications: The Fire Next Time; Giovanni’s Room; Go Tell It on the Mountain; Notes of a Native Son; Another Country; If Beale Street Could Talk; Nobody Knows My Name

Guest Website/Social Media: 

Twitter: @Greg1Garrett 

Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Twitter: @clay_k

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic 

Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

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This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media. We have a brand new webstore with faster shipping, new products, new designs, and international shipping! 

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson

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