The Deep End Pool Podcast

Frank and Jacque talk about how to identify leaks in your pool.

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00:00 Introduction

12:10 Leak detections

12:37 bucket testBcan help you determine if you actually have a leak.

13:06 certain paraCertain parameters of the LSI can help you verify if your pool is losing water through a leak. Calcium, CYA, and TDS levels can help identify a leak

21:00 most leaks are easily repaired, but some leaks can be very costly.

22:00 if buying a home with a pool Frank recommends hiring a local pool professional to inspect the pool.

24:44 a leakalyzer is an excellent tool used by many pool pros that can quickly confirm if a leak exists or not.

26:00 skimmer throats are the most common leak we find on swimming pools in North Texas. Dye test is a good method of identifying skimmer throat leaks

28:18 a good permanent fix for leaking skimmer throats is a skimmer injection.

35:24 Faulty backwash valves are a common source of water loss and usually can be easily repaired.

39:40 light niches and conduits are a frequent source of pool leaks

44:00 this episode is dedicated to Frank and Jacque's life long friend Kenny Clark who recently passed away. Kenny was a wonderful person who knew no limits on how far he would go to help a friend. He was a true blessing to all those who knew him.

Frank and Jacque give tips from some of the questions brought up in FB groups for pool owners in the south.

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00:00 Introduction

05:45 Questions in FB groups are asking about winter preparedness for pools in the south.

08:00 In Texas, we typically do not winterize because we do not usually experience long periods of cold weather, and we frequently have very warm periods in between.

09:33 Be prepared for excessive evaporation when cold fronts blow through. Ensure your pool is filled to just below the overflow and have a dry water hose available that can be used from in-house water sources. Washing machine or sink attachments. If water level in the pool gets low and your pump loses prime, trapped water in your above ground equipment and plumbing can freeze and cause damage.

18:30 Buying large amounts of liquid chlorine from big box retailers during post-season price reductions to stock up for next year is a bad idea. Liquid chlorine has a short shelf life. Specialty independent retailers typically receive frequent fresh deliveries and quickly rotate through stock quickly.

25:00 wind moving across the surface of a pool greatly increases evaporation from pools.

27:33 Running a heater during cold spells is extremely hard on the heater due to the excessive condensation. Once the water temperature reaches warm temperatures, the condensation greatly decreases.

35:00 Be familiar with how to emergency winterize your equipment if needed. Get a pro to come out and show you how or make a video on the correct process for your particular pool equipment.

Frank and Jacque discuss leak detection training at Anderson Manufacturing, leaktools.com, and winter water maintenance. Don't neglect your pool in the winter.

Frank and Jacque answer a listener's question about recommendations for upgrades to their swimming pool.

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00:00 Introduction

04:30 leak detection training with Anderson Manufacturing, leaktools.com. Manufacturer and distributor of leak detection products.

06:50 Leakalyzer, detects up to 1/10,000th of an inch of water loss. This can quickly confirm if there is a leak and give a good indication of what the next steps to locate the leak should be.

18:45 find a local pool owner group to better help you manage your pool. natiional groups are good, but local advice that is familiar with your environment and unique conditions is more beneficial

19:45 do not neglect your pool water in the cold water. cold water is more aggressive. neglecting your pool in the colder water can quickly damage your pool surfaces and equipment. you can use less sanitizer, but you should continue to manage your LSI.

31:35 stay on top of your filter. Clean and backwash as needed, check your equipment regularly for leaks and problems.

Frank and Jacque answer a listener's question about recommendations for upgrades to their swimming pool.

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00:00 introduction, Frank and Jacque talk about their cruise on Royal Caribbean to eastern Canada. Cape Liberty, Boston, Portland, Saint John NB, and Halifax NB.

11:30 Listener Question: J. J. from Dallas. I bought a house with an older pool last year. The plaster and tile were redone a couple of years ago before we bought it. It has older equipment that works fine. It does have a spa and a waterfall on the back wall that uses a different pump. My pool cleaner is an older Polaris with it’s own pump. I had to put $200 in parts in the cleaner this summer and have the seal replaced. I have 3 teenagers and two golden doodles that use the pool a lot from may through august. We are finishing up a couple upgrades in the house and have a decent budget left over to use on the pool. What are some upgrades you would recommend for my pool?

13:30 Robotic Cleaners are an excellent addition to any swimming pool. Frank highly recommends Polaris Alpha IQ+, Polaris Epic 8640 or Epic 8642. Make sure you get 3 year warranty. Avoid Maytronics until they get their warranty and parts availability improved.

23:40 Borates, for salt or traditional chlorine pools. A low cost product that will continue to give benefits and savings in a pool.

28:00 A variable-speed pump can save you up to $1000 per year in electricity and improve filtration and circulation.

35:45 Automation for your pool. Frank recommends Poolside Tech "The Attendant".

45:50 LED lighting. Frank recommends PAL lighting. Many advantages over other manufacturers.

Frank and Jacque discuss the five basics of pool care in detail: debris removal, brushing, filtration, circulation, and water chemistry.

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00:00 introduction

06:10 5 basics of pool maintenance. #1. remove debris from the pool. Dead organic matter is food for algae and other organisms. Minerals in dead organic matter can stain pool surfaces.

11:08 #2 Brush pool surfaces regularly.

15:45 #3 Filtration, removal of minuscule particles and organics from the body of water.

25:00 Good circulation is critical to proper maintenance and good water chemistry.

34:10 water chemistry. There are two separate parts of water chemistry: water balance and sanitizer levels.

Frank and Jacque discuss black algae and the difficulties it causes with pool maintenance. They also discuss the metal staining issues that can happen from using products that are used to combat algae.

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00:00 introduction

06:00 Pool renovation recap. Get it scheduled now for the fall

10:50 Black Algae. It is a Cyano-bacteria that exists in natural freshwater sources. Birds, ducks, or other animals or insects can transfer it to your pool. It can also be transferred to your pool by swimming suits worn in a lake and then worn in your pool. How and why is it getting in your pool? Lack of maintenance, adequate sanitizer levels, or circulation can prevent black algae.

Black algae have a bio-film protective layer that has to be penetrated before you can kill the cyano-bacteria.

Brushing or pressure washing is necessary to penetrate the protective bio film.

scrubbing black algae spots with a chlorine tab is a good way to penetrate the biofilm, and applying concentrated chlorine directly onto the cyano-bacteria.

BlueRay XL is a mineral purification system that works very wel in, preventing, controlling,g and helps to eliminateg black algae.

Many black algaecides have high concentrations of metals. If not monitored and controlled metals can stain your pool surfaces.

Culator metal eliminator is the only way I have found to remove metals from pool water effectively. Many "metal control" products only sequester metals. Chlorine breaks down sequestering agents. They are a temporary help, but do not remove the metals from the water.

If you have metal stains on your pool surfaces, the stain has to be pulled back into the water before you can remove it.

Frank and Jacque take listener questions and discuss the pros and cons of renovating a pool in the spring, winter, or fall. and when you should order your pool covers.

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00:00 introduction

10:06 When is the best season to remodel your swimming pool? Cons of remodeling in the spring. Time constraints, weather, and product availability can be an issue. Pros, full staffing and skilled labor is available.

17:20 Issues remodeling a pool in the winter are weather, labor availability, and pushing up against the holidays. Nobody wants their backyard to be a mess during holiday parties or traveling.

20:45 Fall is Frank's preferred time to renovate pools. The weather is manageable, there is less rush to finish before the holiday season, a reasonable labor force, and plenty of time to order and wait on preferred product selections if needed. There is also plenty of time to allow proper plaster curing. Renovation companies may also offer some incentives.

30:40 soapbox time: Frank goes off about plaster/renovation companies not offering proper plaster start-up yet will quickly void warranties if it needs to be done correctly.

34:28 Listener question number 2; When should you order your cover for your swimming pool. Frank recommends ordering leaf and safety covers in late summer. What is the difference between a leaf cover and a safety cover.

43:00 when covering an operational pool you must continue to test and properly treat your water.

Frank and Jacque (It is Jacque's Birthday. Happy birthday Jacque!) discuss the actual meaning of the term "Shock", summer heat damage on swimming pools, and if you are going to get a winter cover, get it now.

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05:30 rat damage to a Hayward heater. AO error on display. Rat chewed through the blower air tube, igniter wiring, and flame sensor wiring.

12:30 what is the term "Shock". Shock is a verb. Shock is the action of quickly increasing the level of sanitizer in water to destroy contaminants and chloramines. The product you use to accomplish this increase is not really a "shock", even though the manufacturers are putting it on the label. Some people have a real problem with the misuse of this term.

15:00 Chloramines are a byproduct of chlorine and contaminants. They are an irritant and are the cause of the obnoxious smell that you may experience at a heavy-use pool or spa. The chlorine combines with contaminants and does not completely oxidize them. You measure chloramines by testing free and total chlorine separately. The difference between the two is your combined chlorine, which is chloramines. To eliminate chloramines using old-school methods, achieve ten times the amount of chloramines in free chlorine.

25:00 heat damage we see in summer. The most damage we see is caused by pumps losing their prime. When pumps run dry, they can get extremely hot and damage the pump, associated plumbing, and valves. Due to this extreme heat, shaft seals on pumps can quickly fail. A bad shaft seal can quickly ruin a pump motor. o-rings on valves and pump lids can be quickly damaged due to this heat.

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42:30 leaf covers. If you are going to get a cover for your pool, the sooner you need to get it ordered early. Many companies offer early discounts, and the closer to the fall it is, the longer it can take to get the cover ordered and installed.

A short segment from episode 136. Frank and Jacque discuss borates and its effects on your pool. Frank's explanation of Algae and how it multiplies is sure to make you chuckle. Enjoy.

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00:00 introduction

02:05 Frank starts talking about borates, and how it is a tool that we should all be using in our pools.

02:30 Borates slow the growth of algae.

02:55 The sex life of algae, and why they are all "fellas". Bubba explains it all

04:04 algae can double in numbers every 3 to 4 hours when conditions are right and you don't have enough chlorine to kill it faster than it multiplies.

05:00 without borates it takes 7 1/2% of your cya level in free chlorine to kill algae faster than it multiplies. With borates it takes 5% of your cya level in free chlorine to kill algae faster than it multiplies. Algae slows the growth rate of algae.

05:44 borates help stabilize your pH. Chlorine is more effective with a lower pH.

06:20 borates soften the water and make it feel better on your skin.

07:00 borates is a clarifier

08:00 borates is a cost saver and has no ill effects on the pool.

11:20 Borates help greatly with some of the issues with salt systems

Frank and Jacque discuss issues Frank has been seeing in the field with Hayward salt systems, pump cavitation, and, once again, the benefits of borates.

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00:00 Introduction, Jacque is back

09:27 Hydraulics, It needs to be easier for a pump to pull water than to push water. A gravelly noise means the pump is cavitating. If using a suction side cleaner, you should not have to cavitate the pump to achieve proper suction on the cleaner.

14:00 How diverter valves work.

19:22 Hayward salt systems. The control system has to be properly set to the correct salt cell. There are 4 different T Cell sizes. If your controller is reading significantly off from water tests, it may need to be set to the proper cell size. The salt reading is high on the Hayward salt system. Salt system salt readings can vary 400-600 ppm from water test results and still be considered within range. Do not always trust the salt system readings from the salt control system. Test your water. Do not over-salt your pool.

30:00 If you are not qualified to work on electrical work, please do not work on pool lights or other components of electrical system.

30:40 Story of pool owner allowing kids to swim when they were receiving an electrical shock in the pool. Bond wires connect all metal components of a pool together and give an easy path to ground. This helps prevent potential electrical shock from stray electricity.

37:00 Borates. Borates have several benefits and no bad side effects for a swimming pool. Borates reduce the growth rate of algae. Borates help stabilize pH. Borates soften the pool water. Borates is a clarifier.