This week, Adrian talks to one of the world’s most infamous hackers, Kevin Mitnick, about what it’s like to be on the run for two years, get caught and then spend a year in solitary confinement.

Mitnick says that he was punished too harshly for his crimes and that the companies he hacked did not suffer to the extent they pleaded.

Adrian is also joined in studio by the Dublin co-founder of one of Silicon Valley’s fastest growing startups. Intercom’s Des Traynor talks to Adrian about ‘unicorn’ tags, how he and his cofounders persuaded Twitter boss Biz Stone to become an investor and whether tech culture has become toxic. They also discuss some of the issues around gender imbalances in tech at present.

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