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  • How Figma Scaled From $2M to IPO | Kyle Parrish (First Sales Hire)

    Kyle Parrish joined Figma as the first-ever sales hire when the company was doing $2M in ARR and helped scale it to $950M ARR. Figma then went on to IPO (FIG). 
    But the path there was anything but smooth.

    In this episode, Kyle breaks down what it actually took to build Figma's enterprise sales motion from scratch, including the no-discount rule that made procurement teams furious, the 40-hour interview weeks when hiring felt impossible to keep up with, and what it was like to lead a 300-person team through a failed $20B Adobe acquisition, and then have their best year immediately after.

    We cover:
    - Why Figma refused to discount, even when Microsoft pushed back
    - How to hire the right first sales rep as a founder
    - The PLG to enterprise transition most companies get wrong
    - What the Adobe deal collapse actually felt like from the inside
    - How Figma went from 3 products to 8 overnight and launched into an IPO
    - What great sales look like in the AI era

    Timestamp:
    0:00 – Intro 
    1:02 – Guest intro: Kyle Parrish 
    1:35 – Joining Figma at $2M ARR in 2018 
    5:01 – First meeting with Dylan (Figma CEO) 
    6:13 – How to find your first sales hire 
    9:05 – Stage alignment in early hiring 
    11:43 – Early-stage operators need "scar tissue" 
    13:19 – Northstar metric at Figma 
    14:13 – Obsessing over customer conversations 
    16:44 – Building Figma's brand through community 
    17:31 – Scaling the "unscalable" 
    20:08 – In-person GTM vs. digital 
    22:47 – Was there a moment Figma might not make it? 
    24:48 – Pivoting after the Adobe deal collapsed 
    28:10 – Figma's no-discount rule 
    31:05 – Enterprise ELAs replacing discounting 
    34:47 – What makes a great salesperson in the AI era 
    36:56 – Missionaries vs. mercenaries in AI-era GTM 
    39:47 – Spotting the next Dropbox or Figma 
    43:46 – Kyle's post-Figma investing focus 
    45:58 – Family, travel & what's next

    Guest: Kyle Parrish, former VP Sales at Figma 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kparrish8/
    X: https://x.com/KyleHParrish

    Host: Sophie Buonassisi, SVP Marketing at GTMnow
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/
    X: https://x.com/sophiebuona

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    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    48 min
  • How AI Killed the Discovery Call | Sam Senior, Founder & CEO of TestBox

    AI isn't just changing how we sell. It's changing how buyers make decisions before they ever talk to you.

    Sam, Founder and CEO of Test Box, joins Sophie on GTMnow to break down exactly what's happening to the B2B software buying process right now, and what go-to-market leaders need to do about it immediately.

    If you're a founder, CRO, or AE wondering why your pipeline feels different, this conversation will give you a clear framework for what's happening and what to do next.

    What we cover:

    • Why 70-80% of purchase decisions are already made before the first call (and it's accelerating)
    • The shift from discovery calls to validation calls, and how to prepare
    • CEO (AI-version of SEO): how LLMs are shaping what buyers believe about your product
    • The "day one shortlist" shrinking from 3-4 vendors to 1-2 vendors
    • Agent-to-agent procurement: Sam's timeline for when AI agents fully take over buying
    • Why the mid-funnel is actually getting longer, not shorter
    • The "Fake Nothing, Prove Everything" campaign that went viral post-Series A
    • How Test Box runs 15 AI experiments per week across the entire company
    • Using Google Vertex video analysis to read prospect body language on sales calls
    • How to build an AI-first culture without burning out your team
    • Books: The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership, No Ego, Courageous Marketing, Good to Great


    Timestamps:0:00 - Cold open

    1:09 - What Test Box does

    2:43 - How buying has changed

    5:48 - What founders/CROs should do now

    7:05 - GEO: AI version of SEO

    9:02 - Why mid-funnel is expanding

    21:17 - Agent-to-agent procurement

    26:02 - All procurement by agents in 3-5 years

    29:09 - How vendors differentiate beyond product

    33:30 - The croissant campaign breakdown

    45:50 - 15 AI experiments per week

    47:10 - Analyzing prospects via video AI

    48:29 - Building AI culture in your team

    52:39 - Book recommendations


    Guest: Sam Senior, Founder and CEO TestBox

    Linkedin: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuelsenior/⁠

    Test Box:⁠ https://www.testbox.com⁠


    Host: Sophie Buonassisi, SVP Marketing at GTMnow

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/


    Newsletter:⁠ https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.com⁠

    Visit us on:⁠ https://gtmnow.com⁠

    Follow us on LinkedIn: / gtmnow

    Follow us on X (Twitter):⁠ https://x.com/GTMnow_⁠ 

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    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    58 min
  • How AI Killed the Discovery Call | Sam Senior, Founder & CEO of TestBox

    AI isn't just changing how we sell. It's changing how buyers make decisions before they ever talk to you.

    Sam, Founder and CEO of TestBox, joins Sophie on GTMnow to break down exactly what's happening to the B2B software buying process right now, and what go-to-market leaders need to do about it immediately.

    If you're a founder, CRO, or AE wondering why your pipeline feels different, this conversation will give you a clear framework for what's happening and what to do next.

    What we cover:

    • Why 70-80% of purchase decisions are already made before the first call (and it's accelerating)
    • The shift from discovery calls to validation calls, and how to prepare
    • CEO (AI-version of SEO): how LLMs are shaping what buyers believe about your product
    • The "day one shortlist" shrinking from 3-4 vendors to 1-2 vendors
    • Agent-to-agent procurement: Sam's timeline for when AI agents fully take over buying
    • Why the mid-funnel is actually getting longer, not shorter
    • The "Fake Nothing, Prove Everything" campaign that went viral post-Series A
    • How TestBox runs 15 AI experiments per week across the entire company
    • Using Google Vertex video analysis to read prospect body language on sales calls
    • How to build an AI-first culture without burning out your team
    • Books: The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership, No Ego, Courageous Marketing, Good to Great

    Timestamps:

    0:00 - Cold open

    1:09 - What TestBox does

    2:43 - How buying has changed

    5:48 - What founders/CROs should do now

    7:05 - GEO: AI version of SEO

    9:02 - Why mid-funnel is expanding

    21:17 - Agent-to-agent procurement

    26:02 - All procurement by agents in 3-5 years

    29:09 - How vendors differentiate beyond product

    33:30 - The croissant campaign breakdown

    45:50 - 15 AI experiments per week

    47:10 - Analyzing prospects via video AI

    48:29 - Building AI culture in your team

    52:39 - Book recommendations


    Guest: Sam Senior, Founder and CEO TestBox

    Linkedin: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuelsenior/⁠

    TestBox:⁠ https://www.testbox.com

    ⁠

    Host: Sophie Buonassisi, SVP Marketing at GTMnow

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/


    Newsletter:⁠ https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.com

    ⁠Visit us on:⁠ https://gtmnow.com

    ⁠Follow us on LinkedIn: / gtmnow

    Follow us on X (Twitter):⁠ https://x.com/GTMnow_⁠ 

    Follow us on YouTube: / @gtm_now 

    Follow us on TikTok: / gtmnow_ 

    Follow us on Instagram: / gtmnow_  


    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    58 min
  • VC: Your First VC Meeting Will Be Agent-to-Agent | Auren Hoffman (Flex Capital)

    Auren Hoffman (Flex Capital) joins the GTMnow podcast to share some of the most contrarian takes in tech today, from why AI moats are gone, to why your next VC meeting will be with a bot, to why AI is secretly going to trigger a baby boom.


    In this episode:
    - Why Auren runs 500+ AI agents to source deals, and what that means for founders raising capital
    - The "agent-to-agent" meeting prediction: by end of 2026, first VC conversations will be fully automated
    - Why every software moat has been "blown up" and what Salesforce, LinkedIn & DocuSign need to do to survive
    - The OpenAI x The Hustle acquisition breakdown: why it's the smartest (and cheapest) distribution play in AI
    - Why missing a great deal is 10x more painful than making a bad one, Auren's honest VC mistake framework
    - The baby boom thesis: why AI, IVF, self-driving cars & cheaper energy could reverse the fertility decline
    - Why companies won't sign yearly SaaS contracts anymore, and what that means for every B2B founder


    Auren Hoffman is the founder of Flex Capital, SafeGraph, and LiveRamp. He's an early backer of Replit, Perplexity, Rippling, Vercel, Coinbase, Chime, and AppLovin.


    Connect with Max: 
    https://x.com/hackitmax
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxaltschuler


    Connect with Auren:
    https://x.com/auren
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/auren/
    https://www.youtube.com/@summationpod


    GTMnow shares how the best in tech build, scale and invest.
    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes, The GTMnow Newsletter editions, and other content.


    GTMnow is run by GTMfund - we are an early-stage venture firm made up of 350+ go-to-market executives from the fastest-growing companies.


    Chapters:
    00:00 - Intro
    01:05 - GTMfund Q1 recap 
    02:38 - OpenAI x The Hustle breakdown 
    06:18 - Redpoint's optimal VC deployment period 
    11:24 - Auren Hoffman intro 
    13:04 - Why am I seeing this deal? 
    26:26 - Sizing up founders at Replit, Perplexity & Rippling 
    28:49 - What separates great founders 
    32:10 - 500+ AI agents for deal sourcing 
    33:40 - Agent-to-agent VC meetings by 2026 
    45:13 - Every software moat is blown up 
    49:09 - Who kills Salesforce next? 
    51:30 - Why no one signs yearly SaaS contracts anymore 
    51:50 - AI will trigger a baby boom 
    56:22 - Thinking generationally


    #AI #VentureCapital #GTM #StartupFunding #AurenHoffman #FlexCapital #SaaS #ArtificialIntelligence #Founders #Sales


    Visit us on: https://gtmnow.com
    Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnow
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    Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GTM_now
    Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gtmnow_
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    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.


    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    58 min
  • VC: Your First VC Meeting Will Be Agent-to-Agent | Auren Hoffman (Flex Capital)

    Auren Hoffman (Flex Capital) joins the GTMnow podcast to share some of the most contrarian takes in tech today, from why AI moats are gone, to why your next VC meeting will be with a bot, to why AI is secretly going to trigger a baby boom.

    In this episode:
    - Why Auren runs 500+ AI agents to source deals, and what that means for founders raising capital
    - The "agent-to-agent" meeting prediction: by end of 2026, first VC conversations will be fully automated
    - Why every software moat has been "blown up" and what Salesforce, LinkedIn & DocuSign need to do to survive
    - The OpenAI x The Hustle acquisition breakdown: why it's the smartest (and cheapest) distribution play in AI
    - Why missing a great deal is 10x more painful than making a bad one, Auren's honest VC mistake framework
    - The baby boom thesis: why AI, IVF, self-driving cars & cheaper energy could reverse the fertility decline
    - Why companies won't sign yearly SaaS contracts anymore, and what that means for every B2B founder

    Auren Hoffman is the founder of Flex Capital, SafeGraph, and LiveRamp. He's an early backer of Replit, Perplexity, Rippling, Vercel, Coinbase, Chime, and AppLovin.

    Connect with Max: 
    https://x.com/hackitmax
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxaltschuler

    Connect with Auren:
    https://x.com/auren
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/auren/
    https://www.youtube.com/@summationpod

    GTMnow shares how the best in tech build, scale and invest.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes, The GTMnow Newsletter editions, and other content.

    GTMnow is run by GTMfund - we are an early-stage venture firm made up of 350+ go-to-market executives from the fastest-growing companies.

    Chapters:
    00:00 - Intro
    01:05 - GTMfund Q1 recap 
    02:38 - OpenAI x The Hustle breakdown 
    06:18 - Redpoint's optimal VC deployment period 
    11:24 - Auren Hoffman intro 
    13:04 - Why am I seeing this deal? 
    26:26 - Sizing up founders at Replit, Perplexity & Rippling 
    28:49 - What separates great founders 
    32:10 - 500+ AI agents for deal sourcing 
    33:40 - Agent-to-agent VC meetings by 2026 
    45:13 - Every software moat is blown up 
    49:09 - Who kills Salesforce next? 
    51:30 - Why no one signs yearly SaaS contracts anymore 
    51:50 - AI will trigger a baby boom 
    56:22 - Thinking generationally

    #AI #VentureCapital #GTM #StartupFunding #AurenHoffman #FlexCapital #SaaS #ArtificialIntelligence #Founders #Sales

    Visit us on: https://gtmnow.com
    Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnow
    Follow us on X (Twitter): https://x.com/GTMnow_
    Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GTM_now
    Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gtmnow_
    Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gtmnow_/

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    58 min
  • How One Hackathon Took Zapier’s AI Usage From 10% to 97% | CEO of Zapier

    Wade Foster is the CEO of Zapier, a company that sits between 7,000+ apps and runs millions of automations every single day. That gives him a front-row seat to how companies are actually adopting AI, not just talking about it.

    In this episode, Wade breaks down the exact decisions he made at Zapier to go from 10% AI usage to 97% company-wide, why agents and workflows are not the same thing, and what most leaders are getting completely wrong about AI fluency.


    What you'll learn:

    • The difference between agents and workflows (and when to use which)

    • What triggered Zapier's internal "Code Red" after GPT-4 launched

    • The one-week hackathon that took AI adoption from 10% to 50% overnight

    • The AI fluency rubric Zapier built: Unacceptable, Acceptable, Adaptive, Transformative

    • Why leaders who aren't using AI are the biggest bottleneck in their companies

    • How to measure AI ROI: floor raisers vs ceiling raisers

    • How AI now handles 50% of Zapier's customer support tickets

    • Wade's personal "advisory council" of AI sub-agents he uses for every major decision

    • Why building a company today is 10x cheaper but distribution is 10x harder

    • The truth about fundraising: you're selling your company, not raising money

    • How Zapier stayed profitable by only hiring when it hurt


    Guest: Wade Foster, CEO of Zapier

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wadefoster/

    Company - Zapier: https://zapier.com


    Host: Sophie Buonassisi, SVP Marketing at GTMnow

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/

    Newsletter: https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.com


    Episode highlights
    0:00 - Intro

    1:13 - The Seinfeld Quote & Kanye Text story

    3:16 - Workflows vs. Agents: What's the difference?

    6:09 - Zapier's Code Red moment

    8:55 - The hackathon that moved AI adoption from 10% to 50%

    12:06 - Making AI fluency a hiring requirement

    13:47 - Building the AI fluency rubric

    16:40 - Why leaders are the biggest AI bottleneck

    18:12 - Revenue impact of going AI-first

    22:09 - Would Wade build Zapier differently today?

    23:20 - Is Zapier's moat at risk from agents?

    24:59 - Staying profitable with minimal capital

    28:37 - The riskiest contrarian bet that paid off

    31:52 - Wade's 3 personal AI workflows

    36:53 - Favorite books for founders


    GTMnow is the media brand of GTMfund, sharing go-to-market insights from working with hundreds of portfolio companies backed by 350+ of the best GTM executives.

    Subscribe for weekly episodes with the operators, founders, and investors behind the fastest-growing software companies.

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    40 min
  • How One Hackathon Took Zapier’s AI Usage From 10% to 97% | CEO of Zapier

    Wade Foster is the CEO of Zapier, a company that sits between 7,000+ apps and runs millions of automations every single day. That gives him a front-row seat to how companies are actually adopting AI, not just talking about it.

    In this episode, Wade breaks down the exact decisions he made at Zapier to go from 10% AI usage to 97% company-wide, why agents and workflows are not the same thing, and what most leaders are getting completely wrong about AI fluency.

    What you'll learn:

    • The difference between agents and workflows (and when to use which)
    • What triggered Zapier's internal "Code Red" after GPT-4 launched
    • The one-week hackathon that took AI adoption from 10% to 50% overnight
    • The AI fluency rubric Zapier built: Unacceptable, Acceptable, Adaptive, Transformative
    • Why leaders who aren't using AI are the biggest bottleneck in their companies
    • How to measure AI ROI: floor raisers vs ceiling raisers
    • How AI now handles 50% of Zapier's customer support tickets
    • Wade's personal "advisory council" of AI sub-agents he uses for every major decision
    • Why building a company today is 10x cheaper but distribution is 10x harder
    • The truth about fundraising: you're selling your company, not raising money
    • How Zapier stayed profitable by only hiring when it hurt


    Guest: Wade Foster, CEO of Zapier
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wadefoster/
    Company - Zapier: https://zapier.com

    Host: Sophie Buonassisi, SVP Marketing at GTMnow
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/
    Newsletter: https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.com


    Episode highlights

    0:00 - Intro

    1:13 - The Seinfeld Quote & Kanye Text story

    3:16 - Workflows vs. Agents: What's the difference?

    6:09 - Zapier's Code Red moment

    8:55 - The hackathon that moved AI adoption from 10% to 50%

    12:06 - Making AI fluency a hiring requirement

    13:47 - Building the AI fluency rubric

    16:40 - Why leaders are the biggest AI bottleneck

    18:12 - Revenue impact of going AI-first

    22:09 - Would Wade build Zapier differently today?

    23:20 - Is Zapier's moat at risk from agents?

    24:59 - Staying profitable with minimal capital

    28:37 - The riskiest contrarian bet that paid off

    31:52 - Wade's 3 personal AI workflows

    36:53 - Favorite books for founders


    GTMnow is the media brand of GTMfund, sharing go-to-market insights from working with hundreds of portfolio companies backed by 350+ of the best GTM executives. 

    Subscribe for weekly episodes with the operators, founders, and investors behind the fastest-growing software companies.

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    40 min
  • VC: Investing at Inception in the Age of AI Agents | Ed Sim (Founder & GP, Boldstart)

    Ed Sim has been a VC for 30 years. He's backed companies like Clay, Front, BigID, and Snyk. He writes What's Hot in Enterprise IT every single Saturday, 489 weeks in a row. And right now, he says this is the most exciting and terrifying moment he's ever seen in his career.

    In this episode, Max and Ed break down what's actually happening inside startups and boards right now, why the old playbooks are dead, and what separates the companies that will survive this AI shift from the ones quietly getting killed by it.


    Discussed in this episode

    • Why engineering is no longer your bottleneck (and what is)

    • The 5 P's Ed uses to evaluate every inception-stage investment

    • The autonomous enterprise thesis and what it means for how companies are built

    • Why AI-native leadership is now a survival reqxtuirement, not a nice to have

    • The full Clay story: $600K to $100M ARR, how they stayed lean, and what actually unlocked growth

    • The 3 CH's framework for being a great board partner to founders

    • Why the best founders today are inside the AI jet stream, not chasing it

    • What every board meeting sounds like right now

    Episode highlights0:00 Intro & 

    1:05 Episode Preview: Ed Sim & Key Takeaways

    3:10 The Jet Stream Analogy: Two Types of Companies

    5:43 How GTM Operators Should Evaluate Companies Like Angel Investors

    7:20 The Collapsing of Moats & AI-Native Business Opportunities

    10:00 Rebuilding Industries vs. Selling Software to Them

    15:00 Why Old GTM Playbooks Are Dead

    17:46 Ed Sim's Background: From Cutco to 30 Years in VC

    21:43 The Five P's of Inception Investing

    23:04 How to Evaluate Potential & TAM in a Fast-Changing Market

    25:40 Staying Ahead of the Jet Stream as a Founder

    26:32 The Autonomous Enterprise Thesis

    28:44 Agent of the Week: How Companies Should Adopt AI Agents

    29:10 How Agents Are Changing Engineering Bottlenecks

    31:15 What Incumbents Must Do to Survive the AI Wave

    32:53 Intercom, Snowflake & How Legacy Companies Are Adapting

    36:43 The Clay Story: How They Found Their Footing

    38:33 The Three C's of Working With Founders (Cheer, Challenge, Chill)

    40:07 Clay's Growth Trajectory: $600K to $100M+ ARR

    41:10 Clay's Agency GTM Model & Community Moat

    43:50 Ed's Fund Model: $500K to $15M Checks at Inception

    46:57 What's Hot in Enterprise IT & Venture Right Now

    48:03 Closing Remarks


    Key takeaways1. Engineering is no longer your bottleneck. Your people are. Code is shipping faster than your sales, marketing, and customers can absorb it. The constraint has flipped completely and most companies haven't noticed yet.

    2. Painkillers beat vitamins every time. The only startups worth backing at inception are solving a hair-on-fire problem someone desperately needs fixed, not a nice-to-have they can live without.

    3. The 3 CH's of being a great board partner. Know when to Cheer (when founders are getting beaten up), when to Challenge (when they feel invincible), and when to Chill (when they just need breathing room to figure it out). Elliot used all three with Clay to perfection.

    4. If your CEO came from sales, you are in trouble. Surviving this AI shift requires product-driven, agent-native leadership at the top. The companies that adapted, Snowflake, Intercom, Atlassian, all changed leadership first.

    5. The best founders are inside the AI jet stream, not chasing it. The question Ed asks every founder today: are you struggling to keep up, or are you the one constantly shipping and adapting faster than anyone can copy you?

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    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    50 min
  • How Sophos Scales Customer Success for 600,000 Customers in a 24/7 Cyber Threat Environment, with Teresa Anania, SVP of Customer Experience

    This episode was recorded prior to Teresa Anania’s move to Chief Customer Officer at Verint. At the time of recording, she was SVP of Customer Experience at Sophos.


    Teresa Anania (CCO at Verint, formerly CCO at Sophos) joins GTMnow to share how she's built customer success into a true revenue engine at a company serving 600,000 customers across over $1 billion in annual revenue, and why the old reactive, relationship-based CS model is no longer cutting it.


    At Sophos, the threat landscape is compounding fast. AI is accelerating the speed and sophistication of attacks, which means response times, customer journeys, and success motions all have to evolve in lockstep in order to keep up. Teresa has spent her career at companies like Zendesk, Autodesk, and ON24 building the operational frameworks that make that possible at scale.Mentioned Resources: Cleverbridge: Merchant of Record for Software & SaaS​Guest links:

    Teresa Anania - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresa-anania/

    Sophos - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sophos/

    Sophos - Website: https://www.sophos.com/


    Host links:

    Sophie Buonassisi - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/

    Sophie Buonassisi - X (Twitter): https://x.com/sophiebuona

    Newsletter: https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.com


    Sponsors:

    - HockeyStack - the AI platform that unifies GTM data to help teams convert, expand, and scale. Learn more at https://www.hockeystack.com/

    - Nooks - the AI workspace for outbound teams, where AI agents handle prospecting, research, and sequencing so reps can focus on conversations. Learn more at https://www.nooks.ai/

    - Cleverbridge – the digital commerce platform helping enterprises optimize post-sale revenue through renewals, winbacks, and add-ons with buyer-friendly purchasing experiences. Learn more at https://grow.cleverbridge.com/lp/digital-commerce


    Transcript available under the episode here:

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    42 min
  • Bonus Episode: GTMfund Hires a New Partner!

    Jason Demant just joined GTMfund as Partner, Head of Networks after 6 years at Foundation Capital where he reviewed over 1,000 emerging manager funds and invested in 100+.In this episode, Max (GP), Paul (GP), and Jason break down what separates the VC firms that survive from the ones that quietly die, why the best founders today are skipping mega funds at pre-seed, and what LPs are excited in about emerging managers.What we cover:

    • The real reason raising from mega funds at pre-seed can backfire
    • Why less than 10% of VC firms ever make it to Fund 3
    • What makes an emerging manager fundable (sourcing, founder support, durability)
    • The media flywheel that gives certain funds an unfair advantage
    • How LPs should think about mega funds vs. emerging platforms (the barbell approach)
    • Why founders are the ones now choosing their investors, not the other way around

    Connect with Jason:   / jasondemant  

    Connect with Max:   / maxaltschuler  

    Connect with Paul:   / paulsirving  

    GTMnow is the media extension of GTMfund, a venture capital firm investing in early-stage B2B companies. Every episode features operators, investors, and founders on the front lines of go-to-market.

    Timestamps:

    0:00 Intro

    1:54 Jason's Background at Foundation Capital

    3:07 Why Jason Chose GTMfund

    4:35 How Media Has Evolved in the VC Ecosystem

    6:20 What Separates Winning Emerging Managers from the Rest

    8:28 GTM Fund's Flywheel: Fund, Community & Media

    10:41 Building a VC Firm Is Like Building a Startup

    12:31 Emerging Managers vs. Mega Funds (a16z, Lightspeed)

    14:01 Why Top Founders Are Picking Emerging Managers for Early Rounds

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    23 min

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