Debra interviews the famous and the not-so-famous characters who have a really good story to tell. Here you’ll find topics on everything from Astrology to climate change. Get to know Debra and her cast of characters as they entertain you throughout the episodes and give you a glimpse into their lives, those they surround themselves with, and what they are passionate about.

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Debra interviews famous and not-so-famous characters who have a really good story to tell. Here you’ll find topics on everything from astrology to climate change. Get to know Debra and her cast of characters as they entertain you throughout the episodes and give you a glimpse into their lives, those they surround themselves with, and what they are passionate about.

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TW: Death, abortion, rape  How to love your life by understanding death- whether you have an irrepressible zest for life or you’re struggling to find joy and make this life make sense, we can all connect more deeply with life through its opposite… death.   This is part one of an absolutely fascinating (and quite fun) interview with Dr. Mary Helen Hensley where we re-examine our relationship with death and life. Dr. Mary Helen brings her insights into the human nervous system through her work as a chiropractor, author, and healer, with a very unique twist- she had a near-death experience in her twenties that changed everything.   Dr. Mary Helen shares the story of her near-death experience as well as her deep connection to the spiritual realm as a child, despite growing up in a household that didn’t naturally accept her gifts. With Dr. Mary Helen’s Astrological chart on hand, Debra immediately connects Dr. Mary Helen’s experiences beyond the veil with components of her chart.    This conversation holds practical, easy-to-understand analogies and insights on what happens beyond this life, and through a richer understanding of our karmic paths (as indicated through our Astrological charts) and what happens beyond life, we can lean more into loving our experience in this lifetime.   Get your copy of Dr. Mary Helen Hensley’s Promised by Heaven here: https://amzn.to/3UUCxD8  Key Highlights From The Episode   How to love your life by understanding death and reexamining your relationships with life and death   Incredible recollections from a near-death experience   The relevance and importance of regulating your nervous system in the physical and spiritual realms   Understanding the energies of Pisces, Aquarius, Taurus, Scorpio, and Gemini within different applications in a natal chart   Insights from beyond the veil and beyond our human constructs of time   Timestamps [0:46] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Dr. Mary Helen Hensley [1:45] “Having an affair on life” as we are called to re-examine our relationship with death and life  [2:21] Debra shares a personal story of dealing with death and honors her friend Tim in this conversation [3:50] Dr. Mary introduces herself  [4:50] Interpreting Dr. Mary’s Astrological chart highlighting Pisces, Aquarius, Taurus, and Scorpio energy [7:13] Dr. Mary shares about her upbringing with a southern baptist father  [8:44] Dr. Mary’s mother had the German measles while pregnant with her and her father’s “event” that helped give him clarity around Dr. Mary’s life path [10:45] The importance of “Judge” in Dr. Mary’s story [12:43] “The kitchen table talk” and Dr. Mary’s ability to see spirits [13:40] Dr. Mary’s practical analogy around how she sees people in spirit [14:38] Dr. Mary’s tells the story of her near death experience [17:38] Details around Dr. Mary’s out of body experience and the awareness of being “the master of your own ship” [19:20] Debra seeks confirmation around a premonition and a car accident [20:55] What happened after the first sound Dr. Mary heard and its connection to our soul frequency [22:37] Dr. Mary describes what happened just before her life review moment and connection to elderly people  [25:25] Debra echoes the imprint of NDEs and where most people can’t connect to the experience [26:18] How long Dr. Mary was outside of her body and the breakdown of the constructs of time [27:32] The life review moment that changed everything for Dr. Mary [29:27] What happens in a near-death experience that juxtaposes when we attach the ego to this reality [30:48] Experiencing different realities and the spinning plates analogy [31:43] Astrology enters the past-life karma chat [33:08] Debra shares about her new book that will come out in 2025 [34:01] When Dr. Mary was given the choice to come back into this lifetime [37:20] “You already are that which you seek.” [38:39] The relevance of regulating your nervous system [39:15] Speaking to the traits of Gemini Rising [40:55] How interfering with the nervous system can be a tool for growth [41:44] The reminder for us all through this conversation [42:32] Why do we study Astrology? [43:20] One of the key gifts that Dr. Mary came back with after death [44:12] An insight into the observance of traumatic death and Dr. Mary’s example to support this insight [48:37] The big moment Dr. Mary witnessed her father experiencing during the height of his dementia [51:15] Closing out part one of Debra’s conversation with Dr. Mary [53:26] Allowing fear to have its own voice [54:08] Sharing gratitude for this conversation with Dr. Mary

How To Love Your Life By Understanding Death with Dr. Mary Helen Hensley

How to find pleasure in being in a body, creating a dialogue between your emotional and physical body. These two human systems are critical to our well-being and experiences in life, yet we tend to evaluate and feel them separately, which can create dis-ease. Finding pleasure in the body can be key to fully embracing your incarnation in this lifetime.   Debra is joined by Liz Letchford who, by way of the evolution of her work, has embodied a mission to bridge these two worlds. As Liz says, “We came from the stars,” and she has actually learned components of Astrology by relating the signs to the systems of the body.    Liz speaks to marrying the two oppositional worlds of science, through her sports medicine and PhD in biomechanics, and the mystical world within her somatic and intuitive work, which she shares about within this episode. Sitting in the middle between opposing energies and showing how one can support the other is one of Liz’s great abilities, as evidenced by her Mercury in Pisces.   You’ll get to experience Liz’s Aries energy, her fun-loving Sagittarius vibe, and the intuitive, sensual nature of her Cancer Moon and Venus in Taurus. Tune in and refresh your perspective on the pleasure of being in a body, whether you have left that behind or have yet to feel it. It’s time to reconnect our physical and emotional planes.     Connect with Liz Letchford here: https://bit.ly/lizletchford  Key Highlights From The Episode   How to find pleasure in being in a body by creating a dialogue between the emotional and physical    How an event in infancy charted the course for Liz’s focus in this life   An exploration of how unprocessed emotions create physical symptoms    The interpretation of similar Astrological components Liz and Albert Einstein share    The need for creating bridges between seemingly opposite worlds, like the physical and emotional and the logical and mystical   Timestamps [01:04] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Liz Letchford, who shares about her relationship with Astrology [02:34] Liz introduces herself   [03:55] Where we need to give Pisces credit as Debra interprets Liz’s Mercury in Pisces [05:57] The connection between Liz and Albert Einstein’s Astrological charts [06:32] Liz shares about her shift into embodying her science and work [07:18] “Unprocessed emotions create physical symptoms.” [08:20] Sharing Liz’s Astrological chart and breaking down some key components [09:36] The last time Liz cried and why it’s part of her embodiment practice [10:49] Debra shares her gratitude for people like Liz [11:42] How Liz’s lifestyle had to change to match her intuitive and emotional needs [13:32] Why people come to see Liz in her professional work [14:21] What Liz wishes people would do [14:54] Liz shares something shocking she did as a child, the moment she got disconnected from her body, and how it lead her to where she is now [17:23] Bringing the unconscious imprint up, as Debra works through in Tell Me A Story [18:03] Debra shares about what it means to have your Moon placement in a Water sign and a Water House [19:34] Appreciating your incarnation no matter where you are at in your soul’s evolution [20:28] Liz shares about a recurring dream about a spiral and Debra connects that symbol to the soul’s evolution [21:17] What Liz couldn’t live without [22:17] Liz shares something somewhat “hidden” about her work and a story of it coming into play during a session [26:14] The slogan Debra had on the back of her business card [26:43] Debra shares a key takeaway for the audience  [27:17] Someone alive or passed on that Liz wishes she could have a conversation with [28:46] If Liz wasn’t talking about the body, she would be interested in… [30:27] Debra’s feeling about Liz’s gift in this life [30:55] Where Debra and Liz met [31:34] Closing out the podcast  

How To Find Pleasure In Being In a Body with Liz Letchford

How to feel more and dream bigger in a world full of chaos and comparisonitis. We have all felt the need to numb ourselves out and avoid feelings of heartbreak or even grief; we’ve also all been victim to the sense of being not good enough or experiencing alienation.    This is a recipe to squash our life-force and suffocate our dreams. Our guest Ayesha Ophelia has her own Astrological recipe for transmuting our pain body into power and dreaming as big as possible.    Ayesha has also unlocked more facets to her abilities from her studies in Level 1 of Debra’s Applied Astrology school. Debra shares her hopes to have Ayesha join her therapeutic writing course, Tell Me A Story, which is a powerful avenue for personal transformation and creativity.   Ayesha Ophelia is a rising voice in spirituality and wellness. Her work meets at the intersection of creativity and the seen and unseen realms. She walks the path of the muses which are; art, creativity, and the spark of inspiration living in us all.    Ayesha and Debra dive into the dominant Scorpio energy of Ayesha’s chart, in the Astrological House of networking and communication, allowing her to feel with the depths and operate with the heights of this human experience.   Debra also speaks to the Astrological component in Ayesha’s chart that powers her dream world and manifestation prowess, as well as the Astrological component that has given her quite the streak of luck. Maybe you have these Astrological flavors, too- tune in to find out!    Connect with Ayesha Ophelia here: https://www.instagram.com/ayeshaophelia/ Join our next Tell Me A Story writing course here: https://bit.ly/4afAm1B   Key Highlights From The Episode   How to feel more and dream bigger and how that can impact your experience in this lifetime   Collective and cultural experiences of feeling alienated and how Astrology can help soothe those feelings   The high road and low road of Scorpio    Ayesha’s experience in Level 1 of Applied Astrology and Debra’s hopes of her joining a cohort of Tell Me A Story   Debra’s permission slips around authenticity and embracing our creativity   Timestamps [00:54] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Ayesha Ophelia and her entrance into Level 1 of Applied Astrology [01:37] Ayesha introducing herself in her own words [03:12] Bringing up Ayesha’s natal chart with a quick review of her chart [04:27] Speaking to the component in Ayesha’s chart that shows the futuristic and revolutionary part of her character [05:30] Debra speaks to feeling resistance to her revolutionary way of approaching therapy with Astrology [05:54] Ayesha speaks to the connection between a childhood memory of watching E.T. and the current collective vibe [08:13] Everyone has an alienated part of them; that’s where Astrology can help [09:39] Debra shares an inspiring permission slip around authenticity and finding your voice [09:58] The transition of Ayesha being a support to others and then “leaving the nest” and speaking her own message [10:56] Ayesha speaks to what happened during her Saturn return [12:18] Debra connects pieces of Ayesha’s chart to a past company she ran [12:45] Ayesha shares about moving through grief as her mother left this realm and her connection to her mother then and now [13:57] What Ayesha couldn’t live without in this lifetime [15:22] Ayesha’s strong 12th House in her Astrological chart and a concrete story about her big dreams and using her voice [17:13] What Ayesha would do if she wasn’t a voice on social media [17:50] Debra’s reminder to carry your creativity and child-like spirit into adulthood [18:24] Who Ayesha would love to have a conversation with throughout time and Debra sharing a similar reflection from a past podcast guest [21:09] The last time Ayesha cried and her wisdom around welcoming heartbreak [22:41] Debra shares an encounter with Spirit she had decades ago [23:58] Reflections on grief [25:06] The two things we all long for [26:20] The underutilization of dreaming [26:52] The revolution happening in the human condition [27:56] Ayesha shares about an influential dream for her [31:10] The high road of Scorpio as evidenced by Ayesha [31:57] Debra tells Ayesha about her writing course, Tell Me A Story [32:50] Are your words impactful? Or are they just theory? [33:18] Ayesha reflects on what she learned about missing Elements through Debra [34:22] How Ayesha feels about where we are headed as a society [36:16] Ayesha shares about her luck, evidenced by an impactful Jupiter placement next to her Ascendant/Rising sign [38:27] What happens when live under correct knowledge (LUCK)  

How To Feel More and Dream Bigger with Ayesha Ophelia

How to lead by example and help the planet- what’s more important than taking care of your home (Earth)? Debra sits down with biological resource engineer Bobby Gill to talk about the realities of the climate crisis and practical ways we can all help Mother Earth.    Bobby speaks about the importance of “voting with your dollar” and the importance of environmental legislation. Our home, and the future of the planet, are on the line.   From an Astrological perspective, Bobby didn’t know about Astrology; tune in to hear Debra translate his chart, easily pinpointing his innate nature. Bobby shares reflections of Debra’s Astrological insights and reflects on his Saturn return and the popularity of Astrology.    Bobby shares how he believes society is reinventing itself from a “dying way of living.” Tune in for an inspiring conversation around the climate crisis, learn about desertification, and get clues into the nature of a Capricorn and Sagittarius energy.  Key Highlights From The Episode   How to lead by example and help the planet with small efforts that can have a big impact   Understanding the process of desertification and its importance in the climate conversation   Seeing an optimistic future after the planet being in “hospice”   Voting with your dollar and the government’s part in the climate crisis   How Capricorn and Sagittarius energy can show up in a personality   Timestamps [01:00] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Bobby Gill [02:45] How Debra and Bobby met and Debra’s entrance into being literate around the climate crisis [03:50] Bobby’s familiarity with Astrology and Debra deciphering his natal chart [05:45] Bobby speaks to the relevance of his adventure-seeking nature as told by his Astrological chart [06:25] Bobby tells us about working at the Savory Institute and its mission [08:13] An explanation of desertification and how the Savory Institute helps to teach communities [12:15] A controversial thought within the climate crisis debate [14:28] Debra and Bobby share their thoughts about an incredible film, To Which We Belong, by Pamela Tanner Boll  [17:43] The doom and gloom of the climate crisis, and the optimism around the corner [20:11] The reality of the climate crisis from Bobby’s perspective [24:11] One of the things Bobby is most worried about as we navigate the changes ahead [26:10] Debra speaks to being passionate about our life’s work and taking the long view into account [27:52] How will the government come into play with supporting environmental legislation? [28:37] Bobby shares about “voting with your dollar” and other things individuals can do with the environment in mind [31:25] Thoughts on the use of plastics and the conveniences we have grown accustomed to  [33:01] Debra encourages the audience to be conscious of their choices [35:31] Reflecting on Bobby’s lack of the Air element in his chart [36:38] How Bobby’s Earth and Fire in his Astrological chart shows up so prominently in his demeanor [37:33] What Bobby would be talking about if he wasn’t talking about regenerative agriculture [38:00] One thing Bobby couldn’t live without  [38:20] The last time that Bobby cried  [38:52] Who, across time and history, Bobby would have a conversation with if he could [39:20] What’s next that Bobby is so excited about [40:05] The emergence of Astrology into the current collective mindset [40:55] The value Astrology can provide from Bobby’s perspective [42:00] Debra asks Bobby about his Saturn return [43:38] Thanking Bobby for his time on the podcast and Debra’s hope to ignite interest in Astrology and the climate crisis  

How To Lead By Example and Help the Planet with Bobby Gill

How to have a consistent meditation practice instead of adding it to your list of shoulds. Meditation is a hot topic that everyone talks about, yet so many of us find resistance in it being a consistent, fulfilling practice. You’re not the only one that struggles with meditating, whether you’re struggling in your current practice to stay consistent or struggling because you don’t have a practice in the first place.   This episode might help you fall in love with meditation!    Debra is joined by Kilkenny Tremblay, Yoga and Meditation professor and host of Modern Mystic Podcast, who in addition to being a lifelong lover of meditation, yoga, and other spiritual teachings, is an alumni of Debra’s Applied Astrology school.    Kilkenny and Debra discuss how meditation is a dynamic practice, not a one-size-fits-all approach. Debra sheds light on a part of Kilkenny’s Astrological chart that countless other professional Astrologers have seemed to avoid, making Kilkenny’s point of how solid Debra’s approach and Astrological method is, and how Astrology terminology will soon be as fluent to the masses as yoga has become.    The history and dynamics of Pluto are highlighted, bridging the connection between Kilkenny’s intense passion for life and her work, and her ability to speak to the seen and unseen, the magical and the mundane.    Here’s your chance to learn about the influence of Pluto in Astrology and update your perspective on why meditation is so powerful. Plus you’ll hear tips on how to integrate meditation fully into your life, and if you have children, how to get them interested, too!    Learn more about Kilkenny Tremblay at https://bit.ly/kilkennymodernmystic  Key Highlights From The Episode   How to have a consistent meditation practice following simple tips from Kilkenny and Debra   The question around meditation that everyone is thinking and no one likes to admit   Kilkenny’s top tip on how to get children interested in meditation (it’s easy!)   Discovering Pluto in historical terms and its Astrological symbolism and effects   Why Kilkenny enrolled in Applied Astrology and what sets Debra’s method of Astrology apart from other Astrologers   Timestamps [00:50] Introducing the I Don’t Believe In Astrology Podcast and an introduction of our guest, Kilkenny Tremblay [04:17] What Kilkenny experienced at five years old that was her entrance into the spiritual world [05:23] Kilkenny shares about her mediation practice and matching meditations to the disposition of the person practicing [07:28] How often does Kilkenny practice meditation? [08:24] Sharing Kilkenny’s chart and the Astrological indicator that gives a nod to Kilkenny’s easy access to meditation [10:03] The question around meditation that everyone is thinking and no one likes to admit [11:53] A brief mention of Kilkenny’s time in Debra’s Applied Astrology school and the connection of the mind (Mercury) to meditation [13:33] The spiritual inheritance people experience (or don’t) in their lifetimes and the Astrological fluency that is coming soon  [15:34] Walking through Kilkenny’s chart again, speaking to an aspect in her Astrology chart that so many Astrologers didn’t speak to in Kilkenny’s life [19:13] How Pluto in Kilkenny’s Astrological chart shows her intense intention for her life, and discussing parts of the history of Pluto scientifically and spiritually  [21:24] Kilkenny speaks to how her strong Plutonian signature shows up in her life [23:48] Kilkenny shares some of her favorite episodes from her own podcast, Modern Mystic [25:23] Debra shares more on the history of Pluto and its representation of the invisible world [27:22] What Kilkenny always says to people about the benefit of meditation [29:23] The ability of meditation to put us out of the victim mentality and back into the driver’s seat [31:45] Debra and Kilkenny speak briefly to the initial resistance to meditation [32:38] Kilkenny shares her top tip on how to integrate mediation into children’s lives [34:33] There is no random order to the souls that show up in our lives [35:36] What people don’t say about Libra [36:06] Do any of Kilkenny’s three children have resistance to meditation? [36:47] Why and how parenting has always been a big interest for Debra in her Astrology practice and how to introduce our children to spiritual practices  [37:58] A recap of what we have learned about meditation in this interview [39:09] Kilkenny shares about her podcast, Modern Mystic [39:37] Closing with gratitude and a beautiful way to think about meditation, as well as ways to connect with Kilkenny as a practitioner and Applied Astrology alumni  

The I Don't Believe in Astrology Podcast Trailer

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