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"I just want to make sure the right people get the right things in the right way. And I also want to make sure that people like you and me could have a direct impact on a disaster event that's happening overseas."
This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode.
This Mini Chief episode features Juliette Wright OAM, Founder & Director of GIVIT and Recovere.
Her full episode is titled Revolutionising misguided charitable giving, having a million conversations, and leaning into anxiety.
You can find the full audio and show notes here:
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Juliette is an Australian social entrepreneur who has devoted herself to alleviating poverty and addressing crises since founding GIVIT in 2009.
What started as a simple desire to donate baby clothes evolved into the creation of a groundbreaking world-first platform that offers efficient and effective disaster relief across Australia.
Under Juliette's leadership, GIVIT grew into one of the country's largest and most successful donation platforms, garnering endorsements from government bodies and facilitating over 8.5 million donations and supporting over 4,500 non-profit organisations nationally during crises and disasters.
Juliette's experience in developing innovative IT platforms, navigating stakeholder and government relations and managing rapid growth, positions her uniquely in her current role as CEO of Recovere, a social enterprise that supports international communities to manage donations post-crisis.
Juliette has been recognised with numerous awards, including being named an Australian of the Year Local Hero in 2015 and receiving the Order of Australia Medal (OAM) in 2019.
In the full episode we talk about:
β The origins of GIVIT, which was born out of addressing the negative side of donations
β How she handles the "million conversations" rule of social enterprises and getting past bureaucracy
β Why and how she leans into anxiety in order to be happy, and
β Her new role with Recovere and solving the biggest headache in disaster events.
Deal hope,
Greg
Connecting with Juliette Wright OAM
You can connect with Juliette via LinkedIn.
Books and resourcesShoe Dog - by Phil Knight
Rochelle Courtenay, Founder of Share the Dignity on Leading volunteer armies, witnessing female trauma inside prison, and eradicating period poverty
Casey Lyons, Co-Founder and CEO, LIVIN on The rollercoaster of grief, being not weak to speak, and practising self-care
Hetty Johnston AM, Former CEO of Bravehearts on Passion, resilience and negotiating with Prime Ministers
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"My mother has this wonderful saying: Tell the time, don't build the clock. Many of us are clock builders when we communicate, but if we can structure our messages to be concise and clear, we can be much better communicators in any situation."
In this episode of The Inner Chief podcast, I speak to Matt Abrahams, author of 'Think Faster, Talk Smarter' on managing your reputation before you enter a room, thinking on your feet, and getting to the point.
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Matt is a leading expert in communication with decades of experience as an educator, author, podcast host, and coach.
As a Lecturer in Organizational Behavior at Stanford University's Graduate School of Business, he teaches popular classes in strategic communication and effective virtual presenting.
Matt is also a sought-after keynote speaker and communication consultant. He has helped countless presenters improve and hone their communication, including some who have delivered IPO road shows as well as TED, World Economic Forum, and Nobel Prize presentations.
He is the author of Think Faster, Talk Smarter: How to Speak Successfully When You're Put on the Spot and his previous book, Speaking Up without Freaking Out: 50 Techniques for Confident and Compelling Presenting has helped thousands of people manage speaking anxiety and present more confidently and authentically.
In this episode we talk about:
β How you can actively build your reputation and make great first impressions
β Why you need to train for spontaneous, on-the-spot conversations
β What martial arts has taught him about managing his physiology when communicating effectively
β His 6 step method to think faster and talk smarter, and
β A fool-proof way to construct the perfect email.
Deal hope,
Greg
Connecting with Matt Abrahams
You can connect with Matt via his website or LinkedIn.
Books and resourcesThink Faster, Talk Smarter - by Matt Abrahams
Speaking Up without Freaking Out - by Matt Abrahams
Roger Love, the World's #1 Celebrity Voice Coach, on teaching Bradley Cooper, Reese Witherspoon and The Beach Boys to use their voice to change the world
Paul Jones on Getting cut through and building trust through your writing
Natalie Speers on Being an early adopter, how anyone can thrive on social media, and visual disruption
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"If you say honesty is a core value, are you kidding me? Do you want people working in your organisation that are dishonest? That doesn't make sense!"
This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode.
In this edition of the Mini Chief we feature a snippet from our Best of Series with Group CEO of Nuix, Jonathan Rubinsztein.
His full episode is titled Bringing values to life, compressing time, and the 3 key principles of motivation.
You can find the full audio and show notes here:
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At the time of our conversation in 2018, Jonathan was the CEO & Managing Director of Infomedia, an ASX-Listed global provider of SaaS solutions to the parts and service sector in the automotive industry.
Jonathan is now the Group CEO of Nuix, another ASX-Listed Company, and a leading provider of investigative analytics and intelligence software.
Prior to his time at Infomedia, Jonathan was the CEO and founding shareholder at UXC Red Rock Consulting, the largest Oracle Consulting business in ANZ with 8 offices and 600 staff.
Jonathan was previously on the boards of both Missionvale Australia and Humanitix, and has been a guest lecturer at the University of Sydney Business School and a regular participant at TED (Technology, Entertainment and Design) conferences.
In the full episode we talk about:
β Bringing values to life in a meaningful, practical way rather than just words on a wall
β How to get things done faster and why he treats everything in life as a project
β Three key principles of motivation β purpose, mastery and autonomy, and
β Learning from a range of different people, industries and fields.
Deal hope,
Greg
Connecting with Jonathan Rubinsztein
You can reach Jonathan on LinkedIn.
Books and resourcesDrive - by Daniel Pink
Homo Deus - by Yuval Noah Harari
Sapiens - by Yuval Noah Harari
The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - by Stephen Covey
Not Guilty - Nicolette Rubinsztein
Chief Maker Minisode, on Key Business Terms
Isabelle NΓΌssli, Author of the book "Cockfighting", on Managing the CEO-Chair relationship and overcoming the drivers of conflict
Julie Mathers, Founder of Flora & Fauna and CEO of Snuggle Hunny, on being adventurous, bootstrapping a business, and first-mover advantage
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"What do I do with a group of leaders who have risen up through functional roles and are now really struggling to work on the business and to be strategic? It's causing a fair amount of chaos and tension across the group."
Chief, in today's minisode and YouTube video, I'm going to cover the exact strategies you need to use in order to get your leadership team to think strategically at the organisational level.
The reality is that a lot of leaders are technically great, but they need to get out of their functional roles and into driving the business strategy and the company forward, otherwise they risk pouring their energy and resources into all the wrong places.
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So today, Chief, we're going to talk about:
β The 7 steps you need to follow in order to drive your business forward, and
β How to get your leaders out of their day-to-day and collaborate so that they can help your organisation beat the competition.
Deal hope,
Greg
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"You are best defined by what you say no to."
In this episode of The Inner Chief podcast, I speak to Juliette Wright OAM, Founder and Director of GIVIT and Recovere, on revolutionising misguided charitable giving, having a million conversations, and leaning into anxiety.
π§π chiefmaker.com/330 π
DOWNLOAD THE CHIEF MAKER GUIDE FOR SENIOR LEADERS ON HOW TO HAVE DIFFICULT PERFORMANCE CONVERSATIONS: chiefmaker.com/difficult
Juliette is an Australian social entrepreneur who has devoted herself to alleviating poverty and addressing crises since founding GIVIT in 2009.
What started as a simple desire to donate baby clothes evolved into the creation of a groundbreaking world-first platform that offers efficient and effective disaster relief across Australia.
Under Juliette's leadership, GIVIT grew into one of the country's largest and most successful donation platforms, garnering endorsements from government bodies and facilitating over 8.5 million donations and supporting over 4,500 non-profit organisations nationally during crises and disasters.
Juliette's experience in developing innovative IT platforms, navigating stakeholder and government relations and managing rapid growth, positions her uniquely in her current role as CEO of Recovere, a social enterprise that supports international communities to manage donations post-crisis.
Juliette has been recognised with numerous awards, including being named an Australian of the Year Local Hero in 2015 and receiving the Order of Australia Medal (OAM) in 2019.
In this episode we talk about:
β The origins of GIVIT, which was born out of addressing the negative side of donations
β How she handles the "million conversations" rule of social enterprises and getting past bureaucracy
β Why and how she leans into anxiety in order to be happy, and
β Her new role with Recovere and solving the biggest headache in disaster events.
Thanks to former guest, Natalie Cook OAM OLY, for introducing me to Juliette.
Deal hope,
Greg
Connecting with Juliette Wright OAM
You can connect with Juliette via LinkedIn.
Books and resourcesShoe Dog - by Phil Knight
Rochelle Courtenay, Founder of Share the Dignity on Leading volunteer armies, witnessing female trauma inside prison, and eradicating period poverty
Casey Lyons, Co-Founder and CEO, LIVIN on The rollercoaster of grief, being not weak to speak, and practising self-care
Hetty Johnston AM, Former CEO of Bravehearts on Passion, resilience and negotiating with Prime Ministers
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π Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA
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"My mantra is first you build it, then you buy it. Finding product-market fit with a startup is by far the hardest thing in the world, but when you buy a company, you probably skip that."
This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode.
This Mini Chief episode features Joel Holland, CEO of Harvest Hosts.
His full episode is titled Why unhappiness is a requirement for entrepreneurialism, switching seats from CEO to Chair.
You can find the full audio and show notes here:
π§π chiefmaker.com/328 π
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Joel is the CEO of Harvest Hosts, a membership program that connects RVers (caravaners) with unique overnight experiences at 5,000+ wineries, farms, breweries, museums, golf courses and other interesting destinations in the US and Canada.
Earlier in his career, after stints in investment banking and in media organisations, he founded Storyblocks, the world's first stock media subscription service, which was purchased by private equity firm Great Hill Partners in June 2020.
Joel has been named one of the "Top 25 Entrepreneurs Under 25" by BusinessWeek Magazine, and "Young Entrepreneur of the Year" by the United States Small Business Administration, and "Entrepreneur of the Year" for the Greater Washington DC Region by Ernst & Young, and also recognised on the Inc. "30 Under 30" list.
When he isn't working, Joel is outside as much as possible with his family in Vail, Colorado. He is proud to be a member of Vail Mountain Rescue, the search and rescue team for Eagle County.
In the full episode we talk about:
β How in high school he hosted a show where he interviewed celebrities, athletes, politicians and Fortune 500 CEOs, including Arnold Schwarzenegger and Steve Forbes.
β Switching seats from CEO to Chair at Storyblocks, and why burnout forced such a move.
β The incredible operational principles which help him achieve success but also balance in life, and
β How he took Harvest Hosts from a solid business and on an explosive growth trajectory, and why he suggests building a business first, and buying thereafter.
Thanks to former guest, Shane Russell, for introducing me to Joel.
Deal hope,
Greg
Connecting with Joel Holland
You can connect with Joel via LinkedIn, and you can view the Harvest Hosts website.
Books and resourcesStoryblocks - a stock media company
All Trails - an app for hiking
Jaimie Fuller, former CEO of SKINS on coping with rapid growth
Julie Mathers, CEO of Snuggle Hunny on first-mover advantage
Ben Simon, Partner of Rose Partners on diffusing heated negotiations and identifying red flags during a deal
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"Often the people you speak to are in the same industry and that creates an echo chamber. If you don't have communication with people outside your industry, you're going to be someone else's lunch or dinner in this crazy world of disruption."
In this Best of Series episode of The Inner Chief podcast, we feature Group CEO of Nuix, Jonathan Rubinsztein, on bringing values to life, compressing time, and the 3 key principles of motivation.
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At the time of our conversation in 2018, Jonathan was the CEO & Managing Director of Infomedia, an ASX-Listed global provider of SaaS solutions to the parts and service sector in the automotive industry.
Jonathan is now the CEO or Group CEO of Nuix, another ASX-Listed Company, and a leading provider of investigative analytics and intelligence software.
Prior to his time at Infomedia, Jonathan was the CEO and founding shareholder at UXC Red Rock Consulting, the largest Oracle Consulting business in ANZ with 8 offices and 600 staff.
Jonathan was previously on the boards of both Missionvale Australia and Humanitix, and has been a guest lecturer at the University of Sydney Business School and a regular participant at TED (Technology, Entertainment and Design) conferences.
In this episode we talk about:
β Bringing values to life in a meaningful, practical way rather than just words on a wall
β How to get things done faster and why he treats everything in life as a project
β Three key principles of motivation β purpose, mastery and autonomy, and
β Learning from a range of different people, industries and fields.
Deal hope,
Greg
Connecting with Jonathan Rubinsztein
You can reach Jonathan on LinkedIn.
Books and resourcesDrive - by Daniel Pink
Homo Deus - by Yuval Noah Harari
Sapiens - by Yuval Noah Harari
The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - by Stephen Covey
Not Guilty - Nicolette Rubinsztein
Chief Maker Minisode, on Key Business Terms
Isabelle NΓΌssli, Author of the book "Cockfighting", on Managing the CEO-Chair relationship and overcoming the drivers of conflict
Julie Mathers, Founder of Flora & Fauna and CEO of Snuggle Hunny, on being adventurous, bootstrapping a business, and first-mover advantage
π Subscribe to the Finish Strong monthly newsletter and podcast drops
π Follow Chief Maker on LinkedIn
π Join the waitlist for the Chief Maker MiniMBA
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"I feel that if you understand finance and economics, you understand how most of the world works."
In this episode of The Inner Chief podcast, I speak to Joel Holland, CEO of Harvest Hosts on why unhappiness is a requirement for entrepreneurialism, switching seats from CEO to Chair, and buying versus building a business.
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GET THE FREE CHIEF MAKER TOP 30 INTERVIEW QUESTIONS: chiefmaker.com/interview
Joel is the CEO of Harvest Hosts, a membership program that connects RVers (caravaners) with unique overnight experiences at 5,000+ wineries, farms, breweries, museums, golf courses and other interesting destinations in the US and Canada.
Earlier in his career, after stints in investment banking and in media organisations, he founded Storyblocks, the world's first stock media subscription service, which was purchased by private equity firm Great Hill Partners in June 2020.
Joel has been named one of the "Top 25 Entrepreneurs Under 25" by BusinessWeek Magazine, and "Young Entrepreneur of the Year" by the United States Small Business Administration, and "Entrepreneur of the Year" for the Greater Washington DC Region by Ernst & Young, and also recognised on the Inc. "30 Under 30" list.
When he isn't working, Joel is outside as much as possible with his family in Vail, Colorado. He is proud to be a member of Vail Mountain Rescue, the search and rescue team for Eagle County.
In this episode we talk about:
β How in high school he hosted a show where he interviewed celebrities, athletes, politicians and Fortune 500 CEOs, including Arnold Schwarzenegger and Steve Forbes.
β Switching seats from CEO to Chair at Storyblocks, and why burnout forced such a move.
β The incredible operational principles which help him achieve success but also balance in life, and
β How he took Harvest Hosts from a solid business and on an explosive growth trajectory, and why he suggests building a business first, and buying thereafter.
Deal hope,
Greg
Thanks to former guest, Shane Russell, for introducing us to Joel.
Connecting with Joel Holland
You can connect with Joel via LinkedIn, and you can view the Harvest Hosts website.
Books and resourcesStoryblocks - a stock media company
All Trails - an app for hiking
Jaimie Fuller, former CEO of SKINS on coping with rapid growth
Julie Mathers, CEO of Snuggle Hunny on first-mover advantage
Ben Simon, Partner of Rose Partners on diffusing heated negotiations and identifying red flags during a deal
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π€ Connect with the Chief Maker
"We're trying to ease the financial pain for the next generation in the green and gold."
This is a special episode only available to our podcast subscribers, which we call The Mini Chief. These are short, sharp highlights from our fabulous CEO guests, where you get a 5 to 10 minute snapshot from their full episode.
This Mini Chief episode features Gold medallist and 5-time Olympian, Natalie Cook OAM OLY.
Her full episode is titled How to out-think the opposition, and why it takes an ecosystem to win a gold medal.
You can find the full audio and show notes here:
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Nat is a five-time Olympian, Gold and Bronze Medallist in beach volleyball, representing Australia in the Summer Olympics between 1996 and 2012.
A passionate athlete advocate, Nat has always been a champion of the transformational power of sport and the life lessons learnt pursuing your dreams.
Her trademark authenticity, energy and ease, combined with her success as both an elite athlete and influential business leader, make Nat a powerful motivational speaker and strategic sports and wellbeing advisor.
Serving as a Director of Brisbane 2032, Olympic and Paralympic Games Organising Committee, and holding a position on the World Olympians Association Board, Nat is a firm believer in the Games' potential to create enduring legacies for individuals, businesses, and society as a whole.
In the full episode we talk about:
β The ecosystem of things required to go right for the eventual winning of a gold medal
β How, in competition, she used the metaphor of attacking the opposition from the top of the hill
β The mindsets and mind techniques she learnt being an elite full-time athlete, including how to make the crowd work for you
β Working with a former Chief Maker guest, Dr Jeff Spencer, on adjusting to life after an Olympics, and
β The incredible work she is doing behind the scenes to support not only Brisbane 2032 but also prospective Australian athletes striving to make the Games.
Deal hope,
Greg
Connecting with Natalie Cook OAM OLY
You can connect with Nat via LinkedIn, her website and Aussie Athlete Fund.
Books and resources$1 Million Challenge - Aussie Athlete Fund launch video
The Art of War - by Sun Tzu
Way of the Peaceful Warrior - by Dan Millman
Dr Jeff Spencer, The man behind 40+ Olympic gold medals and Tiger Woods on Building your champion mindset and your pathway to your potential with the Olympic champion maker
Leah Amico, Triple US Olympic Team Gold Medallist on How to build a GOLD standard, boosting confidence and empathetic teamwork
Ben Darwin, Co-Founder and Director of GAIN LINE on Cohesion analytics, understanding versus skill, and sacking staff too soon
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"Sometimes you've got to save them from themselves and have some really honest, heart-to-heart conversations about their role."
Chief, in today's minisode and YouTube video, I'm going to cover a little problem that has come up repeatedly over the last few years and that is right person, wrong role.
This is when you have a great employee in your stables, but they're not performing to the standards required of the role. But this is not always what it seems; often this is due to the role not being a good fit for their skill set or experience.
This can have all sorts of implications on the business, so you need to make some bold calls and have some difficult conversations, but always with respect.
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So today, Chief, we're going to talk about:
β The 5 scenarios where job fit becomes an issue and why these are occuring, and
β What you can do as a leader about ensuring you give your employee hope that they can perform and contribute to the organisation.
Deal hope,
Greg
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