The Lane 9 Podcast

Heather and Robyn are back to co-host this episode of RD Real Talk, talking about stress, and Allostatic Load (or overload). We're both in a certain phase of life where "overwhelm" comes easily, and we have to consistently reassess how much our buckets can hold.

Allostatic Load: "Stressed or stressed out: What is the difference?" 

Robyn wrote a great blog post about Allostatic load, so if you want to dive in further, read on. 

Things we discuss: 

• how running can be part of joyful movement and a balanced relationship with health <> exercise 
• why I (Heather) didn't go after that half-marathon PR 
• real life, imperfect human moments
• how to tell when your bucket might be WAY TOO full

Questions or feedback, or just a story about allostatic load in your life? Reach out: [email protected] 

Other stuff:

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Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusiveconference.com

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Kevin Klatt, Ph.D and RD2Be, joins me on the show to talk about the science of weight loss, and how diets repeatedly fail (to both stand the test of time, and result in sustainable body changes). At one point, Kevin added himself, and his story, to the National Weight Control Registry. More recently, he wrote an article for the impressive online SELF Weight Issue, titled "Why Weight Loss Diets Fail". We talk about it all—including random diet culture moments from the depths of history. 

This episode is in partnership with Jennifer McGurk's NEW online course for dietitians looking to start, or continue building, a private practice focused on the intuitive eating philosophies. Check out the course: 

Pursuing Private Practice—Intuitive Eating Edition

Other things mentioned:

• Why Weight Loss Diets Fail in the SELF Weight Issue
• One example of the parallels between diet culture and some religious beliefs (there are a lot of things we could link here; if you're curious, do a quick search and keep reading!) 
• The IE-HAES Debate Tweet
• Nutrition Wonk (Kevin's n=2 podcast co-host) 

Kevin Klatt, Ph.D @kcklatt

Robyn Nohling, aka The Real Life RD and head dietitian at Real Life Women's Health, joins me on this episode to chat everything from the working-mom-life to private practice to our stance on the term "Ideal" body weights.

This is our first episode co-hosting the show (with many more to come), so let us know what you think!

Links: 

• Robyn's Blog: The Real Life RD
• Heather's Blog: Real Talk RD
• Female Athlete Conference
• Weight Inclusive Dietetics information

Questions, comments, concerns, or feedback about this episode (#97): Email me anytime, RDRealTalk at gmail.com

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Haley Goodrich, INSPIRD private practice dietitian and co-leader of the #INSPIRDtoSEEK Facebook group for nutrition entrepreneurs, joins me on this episode to talk about holding space for our clients. But first, we dive into the evolution of her business, and her own process of embracing a non-diet approach and learning how to do some uncomfortable work. 

This episode touches on how we can do less harm and more good by addressing our egos, our expectations, and our learned behaviors that suggest we have to have "The Fix" and provide tangible takeaways every time—and changing that approach. Instead, we are learning to be present with another person and their story, without always having (or needing) a solution. 

We touch on thin and body privilege, weight stigma, expanding your business, and starting to see how weight inclusive practices apply beyond nutrition therapy and into the world around us. 

Links mentioned: 

• #INSPIRDtoSEEK Facebook group
• INSPIRD Nutrition, Haley's private practice in Pittsburgh, PA
• What we've learned about Holding Space (h/t Fiona Sutherland, of The Mindful Dietitian)
• Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) events 
• Weight Stigma

88 Acres partnership with RD Real Talk and WIND events helped bring this episode to your ears. Check out their Nutrition Collaborative for professionals! 

Other stuff:

Be part of the extended podcast conversations and meet fellow real-talkers by joining our Patreon community. Join here, for just $1.

Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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How can we practice more weight-inclusivity in healthcare? In dietetics? Why does this approach feel threatening, and divisive? What can we do about the lack of diversity in dietetics?

Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) Workshop recording:

These aren’t easy questions to answer, or even talk about. But it’s necessary that we look at these issues and get ready to take them on. It’s imperative that we stop promoting and engaging weight-based discrimination. It’s unethical to suggest weight-loss is always a path to better health.

In this panel discussion, and first ever live podcast recording for the show, you’ll hear dietitians Alissa Rumsey, Beth Rosen, Jennifer McGurk, and Heather Caplan (me). This was preceded by three continuing education sessions (outlined here), which are now recorded webinars available for purchase!

WIND Virtual Registration—Get three webinars focused on weight-inclusive practices!

Join the WIND email list for future event and production updates.

Things we talked about:

• Nicole Antoinette’s Newsletter
• Representation: The 67% project
• Diversify Dietetics & their scholarship fund
• The non-diet approach isn’t easy work
• The Fat Sex Therapist (and sharing messages from marginalized communities)
• Research being done by one of our attendees, Kendrin Sonneville ScD RD
• Marci Evans: Resources for professionals
• “Sick Enough”, by Jennifer Gaudiana, with a section on bariatric surgery

Music used in this episode, “New Frontier” via premiumbeat.com  

Other stuff:

Be part of the extended podcast conversations and meet fellow real-talkers by joining our Patreon community. Join here, for just $1.

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk. 

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Questions or requests for the show? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com 

It's just me on this one, because #lifehappens. It's also a deep dive into the Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics events I launched in late 2018, giving you a little glimpse behind the scenes. Here are the links and resources mentioned: 

• Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) events 
• JOIN US virtually, since the NYC workshop sold out
• Alissa Rumsey MS RD—my partner in launching the NYC WIND Workshop 
• The RD Real Talk episode with Alissa
• Association for Size Diversity and Health (ASDAH) 
• International Weight Stigma conference

Get on the WIND email list for updates about upcoming events and workshops. 

Register for access to the inaugural WIND Workshop webinars, for 3 CEUs! 

And other stuff: 

Be part of the extended podcast conversations and meet fellow real-talkers by joining our Patreon community. Join here, for just $1.

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

Have you left a review on iTunes yet? If not, please do! Click here and tap the stars.

Questions or requests for the show? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com

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Emily Travis, MPH RD, joins me to talk about all things dating, socializing, and maintaining your intuitive eating preferences. Emily regales us with stories from her dating experiences, from inappropriate comments to a waiter offering some #DietCulture tips. We're not here for that, y'all. 

Emily offers more information about this topic on her site: WeAll-Eat.com. 

We cover everything from friendships to romantic relationships, but I do want to acknowledge that this is mostly a conversation about "traditional" dating, in hetero-normative relationships. So, I want to welcome YOUR stories, too. Have a different perspective to add to the mix? Reach out anytime: [email protected] 

Before we dive into all things dating, I share a little real-talk-moment about an unpleasant run-in with diet culture on social media. Maybe you can relate to that, too. 

For more, follow Emily @weall_eat on Instagram. 

Other stuff:

Be part of the extended podcast conversations and meet fellow real-talkers by joining our Patreon community. Join here, for just $1.

Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusiveconference.com | Virtual registration: get three webinars for 3 CEUs! 

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Kelsey Miller, author of the 5-year column "The Anti-Diet Project" on Refiner29, and force behind The 67 Percent Project, joins me for a chat about all things real life, and Not dieting. Kelsey shares the moment, "somewhere between an epiphany and a panic attack," when she decided to be done with dieting. And from there, what's next? An eating coach, the Intuitive Eating book, writing her memoir (see below), and how life can be hard, either way. 

We also touch on representation in pop culture, and a different way to look at some of our favorite shows (again!), a la her newest book. 

More of Kelsey's work: 

• Big Girl, a memoir 
• I'll Be There For You, a book about FRIENDS
• KelseyMiller.com
• @MsKelseyMiller

Other stuff: 

Be part of the extended podcast conversations and meet fellow real-talkers by joining our Patreon community. Join here, for just $1.

Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusiveconference.com. Join us virtually for the first event! 

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Questions or requests for the show? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com

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Taylor Wolfram, dietitian, vegan advocate, and HAES practitioner, wants you to know what veganism is, and what it definitely isn't (e.g. a diet). She posted about this on Instagram recently, knowing it would spark some controversy but willing to take that on. "It's just the tip of the iceberg," she wrote in her post on Instagram. 

We answer a listener's question about some family health history and current heart health issues, related to veganism. 

We talk about how veganism and the Eating Disorder treatment worlds can seem at odds. 

We talk about the Health Halo and pervasive Diet Culture messaging surrounding veganism, and how to decode it. 

And we talk about why Taylor's passion is helping vegans embrace Health at Every Size, and vice versa. 

Taylor: @TaylorWolframRD , wholegreenwellness.com

Resources mentioned: 

• ASDAH webinars
• Body Respect, by Linda Bacon PhD
• TheVeganRD.com
• Even Vegans Die
• The Full Helping

Join us for the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetic events! 

• Virtual registration for 3 sessions on weight stigma, weight cycling, and weight-inclusive practices for core areas of dietetics

Other stuff:

Join the extended podcast conversations and meet fellow real-talkers by joining our community, Patreon.com/RdRealTalk

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Questions or requests for the show? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com

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Replay! Lindsay Stenovec, dietitian and host of The Nurtured Mama podcast, joins me to talk about the tenth principle of Intuitive Eating. At the end, nutrition is brought back into the picture! This book was authored by two dietitians, after all. 

Lindsay and I talk about why it's important that nutrition is taken OFF the table while clients work on eating intuitively. Diet culture has hijacked our thoughts around nutrition, making it nearly impossible to feel "good" about eating anything but fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. Orthorexia, an eating disorder defined by an unhealthy fixation on eating healthy foods, is an eating disorder that's hard for some people to even recognize. Dieting is the norm. 

In this episode, we hope to help you understand why it's OK—healthy, even—to put nutrition thoughts away while you work on other aspects of Intuitive eating, including self-trust and self-awareness. And it's OK to be interested in nutrition again, eventually. 

Lindsay's work and Nurtured Mama community can be found on her website, nutritioninstincts.com .

Other stuff:

Join the extended podcast conversations and meet fellow real-talkers by joining our community, Patreon.com/RdRealTalk

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk

Have you left a review on iTunes yet? If not, please do! Click here and tap the stars.

Questions or requests for the show? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com