The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments

The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments

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  • Jenny Murphy; Exploring the Role of Interoception in Thoughts, Feelings, and Behavior (Audio)

    Summary

    Dr Jenny Murphy is a senior lecturer at the University of Surrey. Here she discusses interoception and its importance in mental and physical health. Interoception refers to the processing of signals that come from inside the body, such as heart rate and breathing. People can differ in their ability to perceive these signals, as well as how much attention they pay to them and how they evaluate them. Interoception is associated with homeostasis and has been linked to various mental health conditions and higher-order cognitive abilities. Measurement of interoception is challenging but can be done through various tasks and self-report measures. Clinical applications include interoception training for anxiety and physical health conditions. Jenny discusses the role of perception and external cues in regulating the body, as well as the potential factors influencing interoception. She explains that her research focuses on measuring interoception and its development, and she is currently studying interoception across the menstrual cycle. Jenny also discusses the clinical implications of her work and the possible integration of interoception into therapy. She emphasizes the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration and the need for more research on the relationship between thoughts, feelings, and behavior. Jenny mentions her upcoming textbook on interoception and concludes by offering advice on improving well-being through the understanding and regulation of interoceptive signals. She is editing a textbook on interoception at the moment that should be published by Springer, Nature at the end of the year.

    Keywords

    interoception, signals, perception, attention, evaluation, mental health, physical health, measurement, clinical applications, perception, external cues, regulation, body, interoception, development, menstrual cycle, clinical implications, therapy, interdisciplinary collaboration, thoughts, feelings, behavior, textbook, well-being

    Takeaways

    • Interoception refers to the processing of signals that come from inside the body, such as heart rate and breathing.
  • People can differ in their ability to perceive these signals, as well as how much attention they pay to them and how they evaluate them.
  • Interoception is associated with homeostasis and has been linked to various mental health conditions and higher-order cognitive abilities.
  • Measurement of interoception is challenging but can be done through various tasks and self-report measures.
  • Clinical applications of interoception include training for anxiety and physical health conditions. Perception and external cues play a role in regulating the body and compensating for imperfect interoceptive signals.
  • Jenny's research focuses on measuring interoception and its development, with current studies on interoception across the menstrual cycle.
  • There are limited clinical implications of interoception research at present, but it may contribute to therapies like mindfulness and cognitive-behavioral therapy.
  • Interoception is an interdisciplinary field that can benefit from collaboration and integration with other areas of research.
  • The relationship between thoughts, feelings, and behavior is complex and requires further investigation in the context of interoception.
  • Jenny is working on a textbook on interoception that aims to provide an up-to-date and comprehensive resource for students and practitioners.
  • Improving well-being through interoception involves recognizing the balance between paying attention to bodily signals and focusing on external cues.
  • Publications https://www.jennymurphylab.com/publications
  • Bio

    Jenny completed her PhD at King’s College London in December 2019. Here she investigated the measurement of interoception, it’s developmental trajectory and the relationship between interoception, health and higher order cognition. In April 2020 she took up a lectureship position at Royal Holloway University of London and in March 2024 she took up a senior lectureship position at the University of Surrey. Jenny’s work on interoception has been recognised by several awards for doctoral contributions (from the British Psychological Society, Experimental Psychology Society and King’s College London) and early career prizes (the American Psychological Society Rising Star Award and the Young Investigator Award from the European Society for Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience). Jenny is particularly interested in sex differences in interoceptive abilities, including how these emerge across development and whether they relate to sex differences in mental and physical health. She currently holds a New Investigator Grant from the Medical Research Council for investigating changes in interoception across the menstrual cycle.

    1 hr 6 min
  • David and Naomi talk about body identification and body identity dysphoria.
    Summary
    Marius Theodore Gustavson was imprisoned for life yesterday. He is known as he eunuch maker.
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/09/how-eunuch-maker-livestreamed-extreme-body-modifications-marius-gustavson
    In this episode, David and Naomi discuss body identification and body identity dysphoria. They explore the historical context of body modifications, such as castrati, and the ethical dilemmas surrounding extreme body modifications. They delve into the psychological processes and origins of body integrity dysphoria, including the role of childhood sexual abuse. The conversation also touches on the desire to shock and the exhibitionist tendencies of some individuals. They discuss potential treatment approaches, including psychotherapy and augmented reality, and the ethical considerations involved. Overall, the episode highlights the complexity of these conditions and the need for further research and understanding.
    Takeaways
    • Body identity dysphoria, also known as body integrity identity disorder, is a rare condition characterized by a desire to have a limb or body part amputated.
  • Extreme body modifications, such as castration, can be driven by a range of factors, including sexual sadism, self-hatred, and a desire for attention or shock value.
  • Treatment for body identity dysphoria is challenging due to the lack of research and understanding. Psychotherapy and talking therapy may be effective in addressing underlying psychological issues.
  • Ethical considerations arise when considering surgical interventions for body identity dysphoria, and early intervention and support are crucial in minimizing harm and providing appropriate care.
  • Chapters
    00:00Introduction
    00:35Body Identification
    01:06Body Identity Dysphoria
    04:06Historical Context: Castrati
    05:12Body Integrity Dysphoria
    06:14Ethical Dilemmas
    07:07Psychological Processes
    09:22Psychological Projection
    10:27Polymorphous Perversity
    11:04Psychological Origins
    13:19Sadism and Masochism
    16:27Disgust and Sadism
    23:16Neuroscience and Brain Mapping
    24:16Financial Motive
    26:22Exhibitionism and Attention-Seeking
    29:28Desire to Shock and Childhood Experiences
    30:31Treatment Approaches
    35:23Ethical Considerations
    37:42Unusual Crimes and Personality Disorders
    39:47Understanding Distress and Dysfunctional Solutions
    40:47Conclusion
    39 min
  • David Busch; Se-rem: An affordable Self-Help Program for Overcoming Trauma and Finding Inner Peace (audio)

    Summary

    David Busch, a retired psychotherapist, has developed a self-help program called Se-rem that combines elements of six different therapies, including EMDR, self-hypnosis, meditation, music therapy, Gestalt therapy, and Awe therapy. The program uses classical music and guided imagery to stimulate the brain into an REM state, which is effective at processing trauma and creating vivid images. Se-rem has been successful in helping people overcome various traumas, including car accidents, phobias, grief, and childhood trauma. It has been praised for its effectiveness and is available in 32 countries. David aspires to make therapy more accessible and affordable to those who cannot afford traditional therapy.

    https://se-rem.com/

    KeywordsSe-rem, self-help program, therapy, trauma, EMDR, REM state, classical music, guided imagery, mental health

    Takeaways

    • Se-rem is a self-help program developed by David Busch that combines elements of six different therapies.
  • The program uses classical music and guided imagery to stimulate the brain into an REM state, which is effective at processing trauma.
  • Se-rem has been successful in helping people overcome various traumas, including car accidents, phobias, grief, and childhood trauma.
  • David hopes to make the program more accessible and affordable to those who cannot afford traditional therapy.
  • 32 min
  • David Busch; Se-rem: An affordable Self-Help Program for Overcoming Trauma and Finding Inner Peace

    Summary

    David Busch, a retired psychotherapist, has developed a self-help program called Se-rem that combines elements of six different therapies, including EMDR, self-hypnosis, meditation, music therapy, Gestalt therapy, and Awe therapy. The program uses classical music and guided imagery to stimulate the brain into an REM state, which is effective at processing trauma and creating vivid images. Se-rem has been successful in helping people overcome various traumas, including car accidents, phobias, grief, and childhood trauma. It has been praised for its effectiveness and is available in 32 countries. David aspires to make therapy more accessible and affordable to those who cannot afford traditional therapy.

    https://se-rem.com/

    KeywordsSe-rem, self-help program, therapy, trauma, EMDR, REM state, classical music, guided imagery, mental health

    Takeaways

    • Se-rem is a self-help program developed by David Busch that combines elements of six different therapies.
  • The program uses classical music and guided imagery to stimulate the brain into an REM state, which is effective at processing trauma.
  • Se-rem has been successful in helping people overcome various traumas, including car accidents, phobias, grief, and childhood trauma.
  • David hopes to make the program more accessible and affordable to those who cannot afford traditional therapy.
  • 32 min
  • Anna Motz on Female Violence. Exploring Trauma and Violence. (Video)
    Summary
    https://www.weidenfeldandnicolson.co.uk/titles/anna-motz-3/a-love-that-kills/9781474624381/
    Anna Motz, is a forensic psychotherapist, clinical and forensic psychologist. In this conversation she discusses her focus on the darker side of women and their use of violence. She explains how her interest in this area developed from her experiences working in psychiatric hospitals and forensic services. Anna highlights the differences between male and female patterns of violence, particularly in terms of violence against the self and violence in the domestic realm. She also discusses the prevalence of female sexual abuse of children and the societal challenges in recognizing and addressing this issue. Anna shares her journey of training as a forensic psychotherapist and the impact it has had on her practice. She emphasizes the importance of psychotherapy in forensic settings and the need for cultural change within prisons and the community. Anna also discusses her latest book, A Love That Kills, which aims to challenge stereotypes and myths about women and motherhood. Finally, she reflects on the importance of self-care and emotional well-being in her work.
     
     
    Takeaways
    Women who are violent are often both perpetrators and victims, and their stories are often untold and invisible.
    Female violence often takes the form of violence against the self and violence in the domestic realm.
    Female sexual abuse of children is more prevalent than official crime statistics suggest due to the private nature of traditional female violence and societal stereotypes.
    Training as a forensic psychotherapist provides a more nuanced understanding of perpetration and the role of society in shaping individuals' behavior.
    Writing about the darker side of women and their use of violence can help challenge stereotypes and myths and promote understanding and compassion.
    Self-care and emotional well-being are essential for professionals working in the field of forensic psychotherapy.
    Chapters
    00:00Focusing on the Darker Side of Women
    06:06Differences in Male and Female Patterns of Violence
    07:09Violence Against the Self
    09:32Female Violence in the Domestic Realm
    10:19Female Sexual Abuse of Children
    23:27The Influence of Childhood and Marginalization
    28:56The Importance of Psychotherapy in Forensic Settings
    36:34Writing A Love That Kills
    46:11Protecting the Integrity of the People in the Book
    48:26Self-Care and Emotional Well-Being
    51 min
  • Anna Motz on Female Violence. Exploring Trauma and Violence. (Audio)

    Summary

    https://www.weidenfeldandnicolson.co.uk/titles/anna-motz-3/a-love-that-kills/9781474624381/

    Anna Motz, is a forensic psychotherapist, clinical and forensic psychologist. In this conversation she discusses her focus on the darker side of women and their use of violence. She explains how her interest in this area developed from her experiences working in psychiatric hospitals and forensic services. Anna highlights the differences between male and female patterns of violence, particularly in terms of violence against the self and violence in the domestic realm. She also discusses the prevalence of female sexual abuse of children and the societal challenges in recognizing and addressing this issue. Anna shares her journey of training as a forensic psychotherapist and the impact it has had on her practice. She emphasizes the importance of psychotherapy in forensic settings and the need for cultural change within prisons and the community. Anna also discusses her latest book, A Love That Kills, which aims to challenge stereotypes and myths about women and motherhood. Finally, she reflects on the importance of self-care and emotional well-being in her work.

     

     

    Takeaways

    • Women who are violent are often both perpetrators and victims, and their stories are often untold and invisible.
  • Female violence often takes the form of violence against the self and violence in the domestic realm.
  • Female sexual abuse of children is more prevalent than official crime statistics suggest due to the private nature of traditional female violence and societal stereotypes.
  • Training as a forensic psychotherapist provides a more nuanced understanding of perpetration and the role of society in shaping individuals' behavior.
  • Writing about the darker side of women and their use of violence can help challenge stereotypes and myths and promote understanding and compassion.
  • Self-care and emotional well-being are essential for professionals working in the field of forensic psychotherapy.
  • Chapters

    00:00Focusing on the Darker Side of Women

    06:06Differences in Male and Female Patterns of Violence

    07:09Violence Against the Self

    09:32Female Violence in the Domestic Realm

    10:19Female Sexual Abuse of Children

    23:27The Influence of Childhood and Marginalization

    28:56The Importance of Psychotherapy in Forensic Settings

    36:34Writing A Love That Kills

    46:11Protecting the Integrity of the People in the Book

    48:26Self-Care and Emotional Well-Being

    50 min
  • Jason Warr & Kate Herrity; (Audio) The Impact of Sound, Touch and smell in the Prison Environment
    Summary

    If you were to ask anybody who's lived or worked in a prison, what's the most striking thing about prison? I suspect their answer would fall within the domain covered by their research. So we're meeting with Kate Herity and Jason Waugh. Jason's not a new guest. If you've not already heard him talking about forensic psychology on a podcast a few weeks ago, then you really should. He's associate professor in criminology at the University of Nottingham with research interests in penology, the Sociology of Power, Narrative and Sensory Criminology and the Philosophy of Science.

    https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/sound-order-and-survival-in-prison, Link to Kate's book.
    https://sensorycriminology.com/home/ Link to Kate's, and others website.
    This conversation explores the sensory experiences of individuals in prison and the impact it has on their well-being. The discussion covers the significance of sound, the role of silence and noise, the importance of smell, and the effects of poor ventilation in prisons. It also delves into the power dynamics of touch, including the lack of kind touch and the intrusion of unwanted touch. The chapters highlight the unique challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals and those with histories of trauma. Overall, the conversation sheds light on the often overlooked sensory aspects of the prison environment and their profound impact on individuals' lives. The conversation explores the sensory impact of prison environments on both prisoners and researchers. It delves into the imposition of power and touch, the riskiness of being a researcher in prison, and the impact of the sensory environment on researchers. The conversation also discusses the deliberate creation of harsh sensory environments as a form of punishment and the coping mechanisms employed by individuals to navigate these environments.
     
    Takeaways
    • The sensory experiences of individuals in prison have a significant impact on their well-being.
  • Sound, silence, smell, and touch play crucial roles in shaping the prison environment.
  • The lack of kind touch and the intrusion of unwanted touch can have profound effects on individuals in prison, particularly those with neurodivergence or trauma histories.
  • Understanding and addressing the sensory aspects of the prison environment is essential for promoting dignity, well-being, and rehabilitation. The sensory environment in prisons communicates power dynamics and punishment.
  • Researchers in prison must navigate the sensory environment and consider their own positionality.
  • The sensory impact of prison affects both prisoners and staff, and can have long-lasting effects.
  • The creation of harsh sensory environments is a deliberate part of the punishment in prisons.
  • 1 hr 49 min
  • Jason Warr & Kate Herrity; (Video) The Impact of Sound, Touch and smell in the Prison Environment
    Summary

    If you were to ask anybody who's lived or worked in a prison, what's the most striking thing about prison? I suspect their answer would fall within the domain covered by their research. So we're meeting with Kate Herity and Jason Waugh. Jason's not a new guest. If you've not already heard him talking about forensic psychology on a podcast a few weeks ago, then you really should. He's associate professor in criminology at the University of Nottingham with research interests in penology, the Sociology of Power, Narrative and Sensory Criminology and the Philosophy of Science.

    https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/sound-order-and-survival-in-prison, Link to Kate's book.
    https://sensorycriminology.com/home/ Link to Kate's, and others website.
    This conversation explores the sensory experiences of individuals in prison and the impact it has on their well-being. The discussion covers the significance of sound, the role of silence and noise, the importance of smell, and the effects of poor ventilation in prisons. It also delves into the power dynamics of touch, including the lack of kind touch and the intrusion of unwanted touch. The chapters highlight the unique challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals and those with histories of trauma. Overall, the conversation sheds light on the often overlooked sensory aspects of the prison environment and their profound impact on individuals' lives. The conversation explores the sensory impact of prison environments on both prisoners and researchers. It delves into the imposition of power and touch, the riskiness of being a researcher in prison, and the impact of the sensory environment on researchers. The conversation also discusses the deliberate creation of harsh sensory environments as a form of punishment and the coping mechanisms employed by individuals to navigate these environments.
     
    Takeaways
    • The sensory experiences of individuals in prison have a significant impact on their well-being.
  • Sound, silence, smell, and touch play crucial roles in shaping the prison environment.
  • The lack of kind touch and the intrusion of unwanted touch can have profound effects on individuals in prison, particularly those with neurodivergence or trauma histories.
  • Understanding and addressing the sensory aspects of the prison environment is essential for promoting dignity, well-being, and rehabilitation. The sensory environment in prisons communicates power dynamics and punishment.
  • Researchers in prison must navigate the sensory environment and consider their own positionality.
  • The sensory impact of prison affects both prisoners and staff, and can have long-lasting effects.
  • The creation of harsh sensory environments is a deliberate part of the punishment in prisons.
  • 1 hr 49 min
  • Malinder Bhullar (video) Hidden in Plain Sight: Discovering Autism in Adulthood

    Malinder is a forensic psychologist from Australia who moved to the UK in 2003. She enjoyed a diverse and exciting career in a number of NHS forensic mental health services around the UK, before moving into private practice in 2020 after some very difficult workplace experiences and bereavement, which coincided with the onset of the pandemic.  Her private practice is growing and diversifying, it is underpinned by a passion for practicing from a position of lifelong experience of being "different". Her main interests are helping those who have struggled with being "different", and the effective, meaningful and ethical intervention for, and prevention of the impact of trauma on professionals in mission-driven roles, particularly experiences of moral injury and institutional betrayal. She has lived experience of autism and is passionate about contributing to increasing awareness and understanding of the experiences of highly-masked, late-diagnosed autistic people. She has a keen interest in the development and application of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy.  

     

    Summary

    Malinder Bhullar, a forensic psychologist, discusses her experiences working in forensic mental health services, including her time at Rampton Hospital and her involvement in delivering radically open DBT. She also shares her decision to transition to private practice and the difficulties she faced in institutional settings. Additionally, Melinda talks about her realization of being autistic and her contribution to a forthcoming book on neuro-narratives of mental health. In this conversation, Malinder discusses her journey of discovering her neurodiversity, specifically autism. She shares how she initially had no awareness of neurodiversity and only began to recognize it when working with high-functioning clients. The moment of realization came when she saw a profile on LinkedIn that resonated with her own experiences. Malinder decided to pursue a formal diagnosis for validation and credibility. This has since been confirmed. She also discusses the challenges of whistleblowing and the importance of rules in forensic practice. Finally, she explores the implications of autism for her work as a psychologist and the importance of self-care.

    Key points;

    • Working in forensic mental health services can involve both rewarding and challenging experiences.
  • Radically Open DBT is a treatment approach specifically designed for individuals who have excessive emotional control.
  • Transitioning to private practice can provide more autonomy and flexibility for clinicians.
  • Institutional settings can present difficulties and challenges for professionals, and there is a need for greater awareness of whistleblowing and addressing systemic issues.
  • Self-reflection and self-discovery can lead to a better understanding of one's identity and experiences. Neurodiversity, specifically autism, can go unrecognized for a long time, even by professionals in the field.
  • Discovering one's neurodiversity can bring a sense of fitting in one's own skin and provide answers to past experiences.
  • Formally pursuing a diagnosis can provide validation and credibility, especially for individuals who are highly masked.
  • Whistleblowing and autism may be connected.
  • 51 min
  • Malinder Bhullar (audio) Hidden in Plain Sight: Discovering Autism in Adulthood

    Malinder is a forensic psychologist from Australia who moved to the UK in 2003. She enjoyed a diverse and exciting career in a number of NHS forensic mental health services around the UK, before moving into private practice in 2020 after some very difficult workplace experiences and bereavement, which coincided with the onset of the pandemic.  Her private practice is growing and diversifying, it is underpinned by a passion for practicing from a position of lifelong experience of being "different". Her main interests are helping those who have struggled with being "different", and the effective, meaningful and ethical intervention for, and prevention of the impact of trauma on professionals in mission-driven roles, particularly experiences of moral injury and institutional betrayal. She has lived experience of autism and is passionate about contributing to increasing awareness and understanding of the experiences of highly-masked, late-diagnosed autistic people. She has a keen interest in the development and application of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy.  

    Summary

    Malinder Bhullar, a forensic psychologist, discusses her experiences working in forensic mental health services, including her time at Rampton Hospital and her involvement in delivering radically open DBT. She also shares her decision to transition to private practice and the difficulties she faced in institutional settings. Additionally, Melinda talks about her realization of being autistic and her contribution to a forthcoming book on neuro-narratives of mental health. In this conversation, Malinder discusses her journey of discovering her neurodiversity, specifically autism. She shares how she initially had no awareness of neurodiversity and only began to recognize it when working with high-functioning clients. The moment of realization came when she saw a profile on LinkedIn that resonated with her own experiences. Malinder decided to pursue a formal diagnosis for validation and credibility. This has since been confirmed. She also discusses the challenges of whistleblowing and the importance of rules in forensic practice. Finally, she explores the implications of autism for her work as a psychologist and the importance of self-care.

    Key points;

    • Working in forensic mental health services can involve both rewarding and challenging experiences.
  • Radically Open DBT is a treatment approach specifically designed for individuals who have excessive emotional control.
  • Transitioning to private practice can provide more autonomy and flexibility for clinicians.
  • Institutional settings can present difficulties and challenges for professionals, and there is a need for greater awareness of whistleblowing and addressing systemic issues.
  • Self-reflection and self-discovery can lead to a better understanding of one's identity and experiences. Neurodiversity, specifically autism, can go unrecognized for a long time, even by professionals in the field.
  • Discovering one's neurodiversity can bring a sense of fitting in one's own skin and provide answers to past experiences.
  • Formally pursuing a diagnosis can provide validation and credibility, especially for individuals who are highly masked.
  • Whistleblowing and autism may be connected.
  • 51 min

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