Before you were a mom, did you think you'd be a good one? In this in-studio conversation with Hillary Frank, creator of the award-winning podcast The Longest Shortest Time, contributor to This American Life, and author of WEIRD PARENTING WINS: Bathtub Dining, Family Screams, and Other Hacks from the Parenting Trenches, we swap babysitting stories from our youth, where we find creative inspiration, and how we create work-family boundaries. We share our favorite weird parenting wins and our latest parenting challenges with our extroverted daughters. We also discuss Frank's recent, wildly popular The New York Times opinion piece "The Special Misogyny Reserved for Mothers" and how the parenting landscape has changed in the past decade. Listen up! Ellie Knaus

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