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You know that sinking feeling when you find out your boss grabbed coffee with one of your team members and you had no idea it was happening?
Yeah. Not great.
Or maybe you've been on the other side: invited to meet with your skip-level leader and wondering, "Wait... what am I supposed to talk about?"
Skip-level meetings are one of those leadership practices that can be incredibly powerful or spectacularly messy. And honestly? Most organizations and leaders are underestimating the cost and downside of ineffective skip-level meetings.
When done right, skip levels give senior leaders unfiltered insight into what's actually happening on the ground. They help spot patterns early, make leadership feel accessible, and surface hidden talent that might otherwise go unnoticed.
But when done poorly? They destroy trust, create political chaos, and teach people that the fastest way to get something done is to go around their manager.
So in this week's episode of The Managed Track Podcast, we're breaking down everything you need to know about skip-level meetings:
I also reached out to 14 HR leaders to get their take on best practices, and I'm sharing all of that consolidated wisdom with you.
Whether you're a senior leader trying to stay connected to the work, a manager navigating these conversations with your team, or an individual contributor preparing for your first skip-level meeting, this episode will help you make the most of them while avoiding the common pitfalls.
Listen now on Website, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
— RESOURCES MENTIONED —
— OTHER EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE —
— WHAT’S NEXT? —
Learn more about our leadership development programs, coaching and workshops at archova.org.
Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
Want to better understand your leadership style and patterns? Take our free quiz to discover your Manager Archetype and learn how to play to your strengths and uncover your blind spots: archova.org/quiz
Are you in your first manager role and don't want to mess it up? Watch our FREE Masterclass and discover the 4 shifts to become a leader people love to work for: archova.org/masterclass
Love the podcast and haven’t left a review yet? All you have to do is go to ramonashaw.com/itunes and to our Spotify Page, and give your honest review. Thanks for your support of this show!
If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram Stories, and tag me @ramona.shaw.leadership or DM me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/ramona-shaw
* Disclaimer: Shownotes may contain affiliate links. That means that I am awarded a small commission for purchases made through them, at no added cost to you.
If you’re a manager, you’ve probably seen this play out. One person on your team is trying every new tool. Another hasn’t touched it.
Meanwhile, you’re too busy to figure out how to actually boost team productivity with AI in a coordinated and effective way.
In this week’s episode of The Manager Track, Ramona talks about what AI adoption actually looks like for managers in non-technical roles, where it’s easy to delay and even easier to get left behind.
She shares a clear and practical approach to integrating AI into your team’s work without creating overwhelm or eroding your team’s thinking skills.
Key takeaways from the episode:
This isn’t theory. It’s a hands-on approach for managers who want to learn how to work with AI and lead a team through technological change.
Listen now on Website, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
— RESOURCES MENTIONED —
— OTHER EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE —
— WHAT’S NEXT? —
Learn more about our leadership development programs, coaching and workshops at archova.org.
Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
Want to better understand your leadership style and patterns? Take our free quiz to discover your Manager Archetype and learn how to play to your strengths and uncover your blind spots: archova.org/quiz
Are you in your first manager role and don't want to mess it up? Watch our FREE Masterclass and discover the 4 shifts to become a leader people love to work for: archova.org/masterclass
Love the podcast and haven’t left a review yet? All you have to do is go to ramonashaw.com/itunes and to our Spotify Page, and give your honest review. Thanks for your support of this show!
If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram Stories, and tag me @ramona.shaw.leadership or DM me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/ramona-shaw
* Disclaimer: Shownotes may contain affiliate links. That means that I am awarded a small commission for purchases made through them, at no added cost to you.
Many capable leaders hit a ceiling not because they lack skill or experience, but because their thinking lives only in their heads.
In this episode of The Manager Track, Ramona breaks down one of the most overlooked strategies for leaders who want to increase their impact, improve how they’re perceived, and position themselves for a promotion.
This is all about building your own framework.
You’ll learn why relying on individual examples, opinions, or ad hoc explanations limits your influence, and how frameworks turn experience into something scalable, teachable, and repeatable.
Ramona explains what a framework really is, how it’s different from opinions or corporate jargon, and why the ability to simplify complex thinking is often what separates competent managers from leaders who advance.
The episode walks through:
This isn’t about personal branding or LinkedIn thought leadership. It’s about translating discernment, pattern recognition, and experience into clarity that helps others make better decisions, even when you’re not in the room. If you want to stop over-explaining, scale your expertise, and be seen as a leader who defines problems rather than just reacts to them, this episode is for you.
Listen now on Website, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
— RESOURCES MENTIONED —
- Schedule a Leadership Strategy Call with Ramona HERE.
- Grab the free New Manager Toolkit mentioned in the episode: archova.org/freetoolkits
- Learn how to turn your 1-on-1 meetings from time wasters, awkward moments, status updates, or non-existent into your most important and valuable meeting with your directs all week. Learn more at: http://archova.org/1on1-course
- Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
— OTHER EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE —
- Episode 259 - Resilience at Work: The Leadership Skill You Can’t Ignore
- Episode 247 - Beyond Values - Creating Explicit Leadership Expectations
— WHAT’S NEXT? —
Learn more about our leadership development programs, coaching and workshops at archova.org.
Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
Want to better understand your leadership style and patterns? Take our free quiz to discover your Manager Archetype and learn how to play to your strengths and uncover your blind spots: archova.org/quiz
Are you in your first manager role and don't want to mess it up? Watch our FREE Masterclass and discover the 4 shifts to become a leader people love to work for: archova.org/masterclass
Love the podcast and haven’t left a review yet? All you have to do is go to ramonashaw.com/itunes and to our Spotify Page, and give your honest review. Thanks for your support of this show!
If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram Stories, and tag me @ramona.shaw.leadership or DM me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/ramona-shaw
* Disclaimer: Shownotes may contain affiliate links. That means that I am awarded a small commission for purchases made through them, at no added cost to you.
Setting big goals feels productive. It gives you a hit of clarity and a sense of control.
But most goals don’t fail because you lacked clarity or motivation. They fail because you built them on the wrong foundation.
This week on The Manager Track, we’re unpacking two practices that change the entire goal-setting game: identity-driven goal setting and the pre-mortem.
One helps you stop relying on mood and willpower by anchoring your goals to who you are becoming. The other helps you get ahead of predictable derailers before they cost you the year.
In this episode, we cover:
If you want to pursue goals this year that actually survive busy weeks, shifting priorities, and imperfect energy, this episode will give you a practical system to do so.
Listen now on Website, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
— RESOURCES MENTIONED —
- Grab the free New Manager Toolkit mentioned in the episode: archova.org/freetoolkits
- Learn how to turn your 1-on-1 meetings from time wasters, awkward moments, status updates, or non-existent into your most important and valuable meeting with your directs all week. Learn more at: http://archova.org/1on1-course
- Schedule a Leadership Strategy Call with Ramona HERE.
- Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
— OTHER EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE —
- Episode 235 - How to Set Growth Goals That Actually Drive Results
- Episode 196 - Changing Behaviors & Achieving Goals
— WHAT’S NEXT? —
Learn more about our leadership development programs, coaching and workshops at archova.org.
Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
Want to better understand your leadership style and patterns? Take our free quiz to discover your Manager Archetype and learn how to play to your strengths and uncover your blind spots: archova.org/quiz
Are you in your first manager role and don't want to mess it up? Watch our FREE Masterclass and discover the 4 shifts to become a leader people love to work for: archova.org/masterclass
Love the podcast and haven’t left a review yet? All you have to do is go to ramonashaw.com/itunes and to our Spotify Page, and give your honest review. Thanks for your support of this show!
If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram Stories, and tag me @ramona.shaw.leadership or DM me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/ramona-shaw
* Disclaimer: Shownotes may contain affiliate links. That means that I am awarded a small commission for purchases made through them, at no added cost to you.
This episode is a re-release of Ep 274, one of the most popular episodes of The Manager Track podcast. We'll be back with a new episode on January 6, 2025.
But when you’re the one staying late, fixing mistakes, and picking up the slack, that “helpfulness” becomes a leadership trap.
And if you don’t catch it early, it’ll quietly sabotage your team’s growth.
In this episode of The Manager Track podcast, Ramona dives into the sneaky habit of self-sacrificing managers who end up doing everyone’s work under the disguise of being “helpful” or “collaborative.”
It might feel like you’re being a servant leader, but really, you’re becoming an overused safety net for everyone else.
What we’ll unpack:
- Why doing your team’s work isn’t helping them (or you)
- The real reason you cave when people push back
- How to stop trading respect for temporary approval
- Why being seen as “nice” isn’t the same as being an effective leader
- The four habits to break the self-sacrificing cycle for good
If you’re tired of staying late, fixing things that shouldn’t be yours, and wondering why you’re the only one drowning, this episode will hit home. You’ll learn how to lead without over-functioning, set better boundaries, and actually develop your team.
— RESOURCES MENTIONED —
- Grab the free New Manager Toolkit mentioned in the episode: archova.org/freetoolkits
- Executive Presence Intensive: archova.org/executive-presence-program
- Learn how to turn your 1-on-1 meetings from time wasters, awkward moments, status updates, or non-existent into your most important and valuable meeting with your directs all week. Learn more at: http://archova.org/1on1-course
- Schedule a Leadership Strategy Call with Ramona HERE.
- Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
— OTHER EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE —
- Episode 250 - Why “Figure It Out” Doesn’t Work: The Cost of Untrained Managers
- Episode 225- Optimizing Work Dynamics - With Lotus Buckner
— WHAT’S NEXT? —
Learn more about our leadership development programs, coaching and workshops at archova.org.
Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
Want to better understand your leadership style and patterns? Take our free quiz to discover your Manager Archetype and learn how to play to your strengths and uncover your blind spots: archova.org/quiz
Are you in your first manager role and don't want to mess it up? Watch our FREE Masterclass and discover the 4 shifts to become a leader people love to work for: archova.org/masterclass
Love the podcast and haven’t left a review yet? All you have to do is go to ramonashaw.com/itunes and to our Spotify Page, and give your honest review. Thanks for your support of this show!
If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram Stories, and tag me @ramona.shaw.leadership or DM me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/ramona-shaw
* Disclaimer: Shownotes may contain affiliate links. That means that I am awarded a small commission for purchases made through them, at no added cost to you.
This episode is a re-release of Ep 264, one of the most popular episodes of The Manager Track podcast. We'll be back with a new episode.
Ever feel like you’re doing everything right as a manager, but the broader company culture is off and it impacts your team.
Maybe leadership talks about values, but what actually gets rewarded tells a different story. Or your team is caught in the middle of constant change and chaos.
This week, we're diving into a challenge so many leaders face but rarely talk about, how to create a strong, healthy team culture even when your company’s culture isn’t ideal.
✅ You’ll learn how to build a “culture bubble”
✅ We’ll explore the key ingredients of strong cultures
✅ We’ll share practical team exercises you can start using right away
If you’re leading a team and care about engagement, performance, and people actually wanting to stay, this one’s for you.
— RESOURCES MENTIONED —
- Grab the free New Manager Toolkit mentioned in the episode: archova.org/freetoolkits
- Learn how to turn your 1-on-1 meetings from time wasters, awkward moments, status updates, or non-existent into your most important and valuable meeting with your directs all week. Learn more at: https://archova.org/1on1-course
- Schedule a Leadership Strategy Call with Ramona HERE.
- Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
— OTHER EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE —
- Episode 137- How to Create a Strong Team Culture - with Gustavo Razetti
- Episode 129 - Creating a Feedback Culture - With Harrison Kim
— WHAT’S NEXT? —
Learn more about our leadership development programs, coaching and workshops at archova.org.
Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram Stories, and tag me @ramona.shaw.leadership or DM me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/ramona-shaw
Are you in your first manager role and don't want to mess it up? Watch our FREE Masterclass and discover the 4 shifts to become a leader people love to work for: www.archova.org/masterclass
Love the podcast and haven’t left a review yet? All you have to do is go to ramonashaw.com/itunes and to our Spotify, and give your honest review. Thanks for your support of this show!
* Disclaimer: Shownotes may contain affiliate links. That means that I am awarded a small commission for purchases made through them, at no added cost to you.
* Disclaimer: Shownotes may contain affiliate links. That means that I am awarded a small commission for purchases made through them, at no added cost to you.
This week, I sat down with Brady Pyle, former HR leader at NASA and now CHRO at Space Center Houston. Brady spent nearly thirty years building teams, leading major organizational shifts, and shaping how one of the most high-stakes institutions in the world develops its people.
He has lived through large-scale transformation, resistance to change, cultural resets, and the pressure of maintaining excellence in an environment where failure carries real consequences.
What makes this episode stand out is how directly Brady speaks about what worked, what did not, and what leaders consistently underestimate about growth.
In our conversation, we dig into one theme that runs through every successful organizational shift: the ability to stay aligned, learn fast, and adapt even when the change does not personally benefit you.
We unpack:
If you want a grounded look at how leadership is developed in a complex environment, this episode will be well worth your time.
Listen or watch now on our Website, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
— RESOURCES MENTIONED —
- Brady Pyle's website: https://bradypyle.com
- Brady Pyle's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradyapyle
- Brady Pyle's Book: Out of This World Leadership: https://www.outofthisworldleader.com
- Grab the free New Manager Toolkit mentioned in the episode: archova.org/freetoolkits
- Learn how to turn your 1-on-1 meetings from time wasters, awkward moments, status updates, or non-existent into your most important and valuable meeting with your directs all week. Learn more at: http://archova.org/1on1-course
- Let us know what you think by sending an email to [email protected]
- Schedule a Leadership Strategy Call with Ramona: HERE
- Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': https://amzn.to/3TuOdcP
— OTHER EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE —
- Episode 282 - Leadership Lessons from a CEO Who Built Cultures by Design - With Lawrence R. Armstrong
- Episode 264 - Build a Team Culture You’re Proud Of Even When the Company’s Isn’t
— WHAT’S NEXT? —
Learn more about our leadership development programs, coaching and workshops at archova.org.
Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
Want to better understand your leadership style and patterns? Take our free quiz to discover your Manager Archetype and learn how to play to your strengths and uncover your blind spots: archova.org/quiz
Are you in your first manager role and don't want to mess it up? Watch our FREE Masterclass and discover the 4 shifts to become a leader people love to work for: archova.org/masterclass
Love the podcast and haven’t left a review yet? All you have to do is go to ramonashaw.com/itunes and to our Spotify Page, and give your honest review. Thanks for your support of this show!
If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram Stories, and tag me @ramona.shaw.leadership or DM me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/ramona-shaw
* Disclaimer: Shownotes may contain affiliate links. That means that I am awarded a small commission for purchases made through them, at no added cost to you.
Review season can feel like another task on the calendar, but it’s actually one of the most valuable leadership moments of the year.
When done well, it gives your team clarity, strengthens alignment, and it sets the tone for the next year.
The real opportunity lies in how you approach it. Most leaders focus on the conversation itself, but the real impact comes from:
This sets a tone for fairness, raises the bar for your team, and gives people a sense of direction they can trust and act on. When it isn’t, the noise around ratings grows louder, development plans become vague, and calibration turns into a negotiation instead of objective decision-making.
This week on The Manager Track, we’re digging into what a well-run review season actually makes possible and why this moment deserves more rigor and attention than it typically gets.
In this episode, you'll hear both my take and the perspective of several HR leaders who added their point of view. With that, we cover:
Listen or watch now on our Website, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
If you want to create more consistency and fairness across your team, or you’re supporting leaders who are heading into reviews, this is an episode worth sharing.
— RESOURCES MENTIONED —
— OTHER EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE —
— WHAT’S NEXT? —
Learn more about our leadership development programs, coaching and workshops at archova.org.
Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
Want to better understand your leadership style and patterns? Take our free quiz to discover your Manager Archetype and learn how to play to your strengths and uncover your blind spots: archova.org/quiz
Are you in your first manager role and don't want to mess it up? Watch our FREE Masterclass and discover the 4 shifts to become a leader people love to work for: archova.org/masterclass
Love the podcast and haven’t left a review yet? All you have to do is go to ramonashaw.com/itunes and to our Spotify Page, and give your honest review. Thanks for your support of this show!
If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram Stories, and tag me @ramona.shaw.leadership or DM me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/ramona-shaw
* Disclaimer: Shownotes may contain affiliate links. That means that I am awarded a small commission for purchases made through them, at no added cost to you.
The promotion feels like a win, and it certainly is. It means people see your potential. But it also kicks off one of the hardest transitions of your career.
We often assume that because we were great individual contributors, leadership will come naturally. But being promoted doesn't mean you are prepared.
In fact, statistics show that 60% of new managers underperform in their first two years.
Why? Because most new leaders fall into one of two traps: they are either held back by insecurity ("I have no clue what I'm doing") or they charge forward with overconfidence ("I'm great at my job, this will be fine"). Both approaches can erode trust and slow down your team.
This week on The Manager Track, we are breaking down what you might be underestimating about this transition-and why "trial and error" is the most expensive way to learn.
In this episode, we cover:
You wouldn't tell an engineer to just "figure out coding" on the job. Leadership requires the same level of intentional study.
If you want to lead well (or support someone who is just starting out), this is the episode to share.
Listen or watch now on our Website, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
— RESOURCES MENTIONED —
— OTHER EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE —
— WHAT’S NEXT? —
Learn more about our leadership development programs, coaching and workshops at archova.org.
Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
Want to better understand your leadership style and patterns? Take our free quiz to discover your Manager Archetype and learn how to play to your strengths and uncover your blind spots: archova.org/quiz
Are you in your first manager role and don't want to mess it up? Watch our FREE Masterclass and discover the 4 shifts to become a leader people love to work for: archova.org/masterclass
Love the podcast and haven’t left a review yet? All you have to do is go to ramonashaw.com/itunes and to our Spotify Page, and give your honest review. Thanks for your support of this show!
If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram Stories, and tag me @ramona.shaw.leadership or DM me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/ramona-shaw
* Disclaimer: Shownotes may contain affiliate links. That means that I am awarded a small commission for purchases made through them, at no added cost to you.
Many leaders still treat high performance as the destination.
They double down on output, visibility, and achievement, convinced that hitting those marks means they have arrived.
The reality is different. And maybe you can relate. Maybe you, too, ask yourself what the achievement is really all about when you still don't seem satisfied despite all the success..
That's because for most of us, meaningful success today comes from shifting the focus inward, examining old habits, and being willing to reinvent the way we operate.
This week on The Manager Track podcast, I'm joined by Jason Jaggard, CEO of Novus Global and USA Today bestselling author of Beyond High Performance.
Jason explains why the real bottleneck is rarely skill. It is identity. Leaders cling to roles, habits, and assumptions that once helped them succeed, but now hold them back.
When you focus on looking like a high performer, you miss the deeper work that creates reinvention and bigger contribution.
You'll learn how to:
- Use the Meta Performance question to unlock endless growth
- Find the hidden "kernel" of value inside your judgments about peers and bosses
- Apply the Athlete Mindset to your career and development
- Understand the shift from paradoxical thinking to multiaxial thinking and why senior leaders rely on it
This episode helps you look closely at how you show up in your role and what mindset shifts could help you reach the next level.
Listen or watch now on our Website, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
— RESOURCES MENTIONED —
- Jason Jaggard's website: https://novus.global/
- Jason Jaggard's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonjaggard/
- Jason Jaggard's Book: Beyond High Performance: https://book.novus.global/
- Beyond High Performance Assessment by Novus Global: HERE
- Grab the free New Manager Toolkit mentioned in the episode: archova.org/freetoolkits
- Learn how to turn your 1-on-1 meetings from time wasters, awkward moments, status updates, or non-existent into your most important and valuable meeting with your directs all week. Learn more at: http://archova.org/1on1-course
- Let us know what you think by sending an email to [email protected]
- Schedule a Leadership Strategy Call with Ramona: HERE
- Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': https://amzn.to/3TuOdcP
— OTHER EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE —
- Episode 67 - How Do You Measure Your Own Performance?
- Episode 279 - The Behaviors That Make or Break Team Performance
— WHAT’S NEXT? —
Learn more about our leadership development programs, coaching and workshops at archova.org.
Grab your copy of Ramona's best-selling book 'The Confident & Competent New Manager: How to Rapidly Rise to Success in Your First Leadership Role': amzn.to/3TuOdcP
Want to better understand your leadership style and patterns? Take our free quiz to discover your Manager Archetype and learn how to play to your strengths and uncover your blind spots: archova.org/quiz
Are you in your first manager role and don't want to mess it up? Watch our FREE Masterclass and discover the 4 shifts to become a leader people love to work for: archova.org/masterclass
Love the podcast and haven’t left a review yet? All you have to do is go to ramonashaw.com/itunes and to our Spotify Page, and give your honest review. Thanks for your support of this show!
If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram Stories, and tag me @ramona.shaw.leadership or DM me on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/ramona-shaw
* Disclaimer: Shownotes may contain affiliate links. That means that I am awarded a small commission for purchases made through them, at no added cost to you.
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