Reimagining the Good Life with Amy Julia Becker

The Measure of Intelligence with Pepper Stetler, Ph.D.


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What freedom could we offer one another as humans if we weren’t so stuck on the "treadmill of achievements and quantified learning"? Pepper Stetler, PhD, is the author of A Measure of Intelligence: One Mother's Reckoning with the IQ Test. She joins Amy Julia Becker on the podcast to share her personal journey navigating the world of IQ testing with her daughter Louisa, who has Down syndrome. Amy Julia and Dr. Stetler explore: 

  • the historical roots of these intelligence assessments

  • IQ testing's societal implications

  • the ethical dilemmas the tests present for parents and educators

  • how IQ tests shape our understanding of intelligence and the pursuit of a fulfilling life

  • ways to challenge conventional notions of achievement and success

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On the Podcast:

A Measure of Intelligence: One Mother's Reckoning with the IQ Test by Pepper Stetler

Alfred Binet

DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

Henry Goddard

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Connect with Dr. Stetler on her website (pepperstetler.com) or X (@PepperStetler).

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Watch this conversation on YouTube by clicking here. Read the full transcript and access detailed show notes by clicking here or visiting amyjuliabecker.com/podcast.

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