The Modern Manager

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  • 401: How to Use Nature to Rewire Your Brain for Greater Focus, Creativity, and Energy with Dr. John La Puma

    We spend most of our time indoors moving from screens to meetings to more screens without realizing the toll it’s taking on our focus, energy, and overall well-being.


    For many managers, burnout and fatigue feel like a personal failing or just “part of the job.” But what if the real issue isn’t you… it’s your environment?


    Fortunately, this week’s guest explains how reconnecting with nature isn’t just about wellness; it’s a powerful, science-backed way to improve cognitive function, reduce stress, and become a more effective leader.


    Dr. John La Puma is a physician, author, and expert in lifestyle medicine who focuses on how nature, nutrition, and environment impact human performance and health. His work helps leaders rethink how their daily surroundings influence not just their well-being, but also their decision-making, creativity, and relationships at work.


    In this conversation, we explore how nature affects the brain, why “green” and “blue” spaces improve collaboration and reduce stress, and practical ways managers can bring more outdoor experiences into their workdays and team routines.


    Conversation Topics

    • (00:00) Introduction
    • (01:42) Why modern work environments are mismatched with how our brains function
    • (04:18) The connection between nature, stress reduction, and cognitive performance
    • (07:36) How “green” and “blue” spaces impact focus, creativity, and calm
    • (10:55) Why burnout is a biological mismatch, not a personal failure
    • (14:27) The role of sensory engagement in restoring mental energy
    • (18:03) How too much screen time (“digital overload”) affects the brain
    • (22:11) Practical ways to incorporate more nature into your daily routine
    • (26:34) Why small environmental changes can have a big impact on performance
    • (31:48) [Extended Episode Only] How to bring nature into team activities and meetings
    • (32:41) [Extended Episode Only] Why walking meetings work better in green spaces
    • (40:18) [Extended Episode Only] A simple way to introduce cold exposure into your routine


    📚 Additional Resources:


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    ✨ Read the full transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hahKSaofgMpcW6ehwtJn6_L5zQiec4ftymnTfBp7mqs/edit?usp=sharing 

     

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    - Learn more about The Indoor Epidemic: https://www.drjohnlapuma.com/indoor-epidemic-by-dr-john-la-puma/ 

    Guest Bonus: Free Guide: How To Talk To Your Doctor About A Natural Prescription


    Dr. John is providing members of Podcast Plus with his guide, "How to Talk to Your Doctor about a Nature Prescription." This one-page guide offers a simple script and prescription layout so you can create your optimal nature prescription.

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    35 min
  • 400: Tackle the Five Sources of Stress at Work with Amy Leneker

    Stress is something every manager experiences. Tight deadlines, constant decisions, competing priorities; it can feel like pressure is simply part of the job.


    Most leaders treat stress like one big, unavoidable force. In reality, stress isn’t just one thing. It appears in different forms, and each requires a different response. When leaders don’t understand the source of their stress, they often try to solve the wrong problem or end up stuck in cycles of overthinking and burnout.


    Fortunately, this week’s guest shares a practical framework for understanding stress and turning it into something leaders can actually manage.


    Amy Leneker is a former C-suite executive, a leadership advisor to Fortune 100 companies, and the author of Cheers to Monday: The Surprisingly Simple Method to Lead and Live with Less Stress and More Joy. Her work focuses on helping leaders identify the sources of stress in their work and create simple systems to reduce it while increasing clarity and joy.


    In this conversation, we explore the different types of stress leaders experience, how stress flows through teams, and practical ways managers can help their teams talk about stress more openly and productively.


    Conversation Topics

    • (00:00) Introduction
    • (01:34) Why isn't all stress the same, and why that matter for leaders
    • (04:12) The different types of stress managers experience at work
    • (07:25) Why identifying the source of stress is the first step to solving it
    • (10:48) How unmanaged stress quietly spreads through teams
    • (14:22) Why leaders often underestimate the stress their words create
    • (18:36) Helping teams talk about stress without judgment
    • (22:41) Why unclear priorities create unnecessary stress for teams
    • (27:18) Practical ways leaders can reduce stress while improving clarity and trust
    • (30:02) Simple leadership habits that create more moments of joy at work
    • (33:01) [Extended Episode Only] The three-step “unstressing” method for identifying and solving stressors
    • (36:21) [Extended Episode Only] A powerful team exercise that revealed 73 hidden stressors
    • (41:58) [Extended Episode Only] Avoiding toxic positivity and creating real moments of connection on your team


    📚 Additional Resources:


    ✨ Get the extended episode by joining The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community for just $15 per month


    ✨ Read the full transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nZOOgSIPaHiVT4PukpfR74wy8Drp-Lzah9AHMhadf3s/edit?usp=sharing 

     

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    Keep Up with Amy Leneker

    - Follow Amy on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amy.leneker/

    - Check out her book Cheers to Monday: The Surprisingly Simple Method to Lead and Live with Less Stress and More Joy. https://www.amazon.com/Cheers-Monday-Surprisingly-Simple-Method/dp/1394388802


    Guest Bonus: Book Giveaway 3 Copies of "Cheers to Monday"


    Amy is giving away 3 copies of her new book, Cheers to Monday: The Surprisingly Simple Method to Lead and Live with Less Stress and More Joy. 


    You must enter the drawing by April 17th.

    To get this bonus and many other member benefits, become a member of The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community.

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    Follow The Modern Manager on your favorite podcast platform so you won’t miss an episode!


    #Leadership #TeamLeadership #WorkplaceStress #LeadershipSkills #ManagementTips #LeadershipDevelopment #BurnoutPrevention #TeamManagement #ManagerTips #FutureOfWork



    35 min
  • 399: How to Build Radical Trust Through Better Listening with Leilani Garrett

    Empathy is often talked about as a “soft skill,” but in reality, it can be one of the most powerful leadership strategies for building trust, improving collaboration, and helping teams perform at their best.


    When leaders understand the experiences and stories that shape how people think, communicate, and respond under pressure, they can lead in ways that make team members feel truly seen and supported. But empathy at work isn’t just about being kind or having surface-level conversations. It requires curiosity, listening, and taking action based on what you learn.


    This week’s guest shares practical ways leaders can bring empathy into everyday workplace interactions, from asking better questions to creating small moments where team members can share their stories and build stronger connections.


    Leilani Garrett spent more than two decades in corporate sales and leadership, navigating high-stakes environments, leading teams, and closing multi-million-dollar deals. Today, she’s a creative force redefining leadership, connection, and culture through storytelling. Her work bridges personal growth and organizational impact, helping leaders and teams break down silos, build trust, and show up more fully human.


    In this conversation, we explore how empathy strengthens leadership, why curiosity is essential for understanding your team, and simple activities managers can use to create deeper trust and collaboration.


    Join the conversation now!


    Conversation Topics

    • (00:00) Introduction
    • (02:29) What empathy really means at work
    • (04:19) Recognizing our shared humanity
    • (06:46) Creating space for honest conversations with your team
    • (08:50) Why listening matters more than relating
    • (12:11) Identifying procedural roadblocks that affect your team
    • (15:47) Why curiosity is essential for empathetic leadership
    • (17:59) Recognizing and celebrating quiet contributors
    • (19:46) Building trust by repeating what people say
    • (22:18) Why teams stop sharing personal stories over time
    • (26:03) Examples of empathetic leadership in practice
    • (31:39) [Extended Episode Only] Questions that spark meaningful conversations
    • (33:16) [Extended Episode Only] Using stories to bring empathy into decisions


    📚 Additional Resources:


    ✨ Get the extended episode by joining The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community for just $15 per month


    ✨ Read the full transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s24gnyedl7h6XumSMgQSaT9489bw661mUCOBlfqAgEQ/edit?usp=sharing 

     

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    Keep up with Leilani Garrett

    - Connect with Leilani on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leilanigarrett/

    - Follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lahhnee/


    Guest Bonus: 20% Off Leilani’s Services


    Leilani provides leaders and teams with tools to communicate more honestly, lead more empathetically, and thrive collectively. 


    Learn more about her services here. 


    Discount is available through August 2026.

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    Follow The Modern Manager on your favorite podcast platform so you won’t miss an episode!


    #Leadership #EmpathyInLeadership #ManagementSkills #LeadershipDevelopment #TeamLeadership #WorkplaceCulture #EmotionalIntelligence #TheModernManager #MamieKanferStewart #LeadershipPodcast



    31 min
  • 398: Become a Change Leader, Not Just a Change Manager with Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta

    Change is constant. But too often, leaders treat change as a project instead of a core leadership skill.


    That’s when teams disengage, resistance grows, and initiatives stall. The problem isn’t the change itself. It’s how it’s led.


    Fortunately, this week’s guest shares a powerful new approach to help leaders guide their teams through uncertainty, build trust, and turn resistance into meaningful progress.


    Yvonne is a Change Management Strategist & Advisor, Founder of The Change Leadership, Author, and a Change Leadership Advocate with over 20 years of experience helping professionals and organizations lead and navigate change in today's disruptive environment.


    In this conversation, we explore the difference between change leadership and change management, how empathy and adaptability drive adoption, and why resistance is one of the most valuable signals leaders can receive.


    Get FREE mini-episode guides with the big idea from the week’s episode delivered to your inbox when you subscribe to my weekly email.


    Join the conversation now!


    Conversation Topics

    • (00:00) Introduction
    • (01:34) Change leadership vs. change management
    • (04:24) Core change leadership skills every manager needs
    • (06:50) Adaptive leadership and the head, heart, and hand model
    • (09:42) Empathy and understanding how others hear change
    • (11:36) Leading AI adoption and understanding impact first
    • (14:50) The change curve and why people react differently
    • (18:55) Involving stakeholders early to avoid failure
    • (21:48) Transparency, trust, and early communication
    • (24:26) Why resistance to change is valuable feedback
    • (27:29) Designing better communication through real questions
    • (29:26) The role of trust in strong leadership relationships
    • (31:22) [Extended Episode] Avoiding performative change
    • (36:45) [Extended episode] Driving change adoption
    • (39:19) [Extended Episode] When feedback creates insight


    📚 Additional Resources:


    ✨ Get the extended episode by joining The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community for just $15 per month


    ✨ Read the full transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BO4nUYvWB6iEJDa1tMiJzBI-xL_d1TtcIVx53OS8fAs/edit?usp=sharing 

     

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    Keep Up with Yvonne Akpoveta

    - Connect with Yvonne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yvonneakpoveta/

    - Access free resources here: https://oliveblue.com/resources

    - Visit her website: https://thechangeleadership.com/


    Guest Bonus: Discount on your virtual or in-person ticket to Change Leadership Conference 2026

    At this one-day event, you’ll gain practical strategies, build peer connections, and elevate your credibility as a change leader in a world of constant disruption.


    Members get $150 off In-person tickets and $45 off Virtual tickets. Promo codes expire April 30th.

    The Change Leadership Conference is on May 27, 2026.

    Get your ticket here: https://thechangeleadership.com/change-leadership-conference-2026#tickets

    To get this bonus and many other member benefits, become a member of The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community.

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    #ChangeLeadership #LeadershipDevelopment #ManagementSkills #TeamLeadership #ResistanceIsAGift #TheModernManager #MamieKanferStewart #OrganizationalChange #FutureOfWork



    33 min
  • 397: How to Communicate So People Listen, Care, and Take Action with Andy Freed

    Many leaders assume communication is about clarity. But the real challenge is getting people to truly understand, care, and take action.


    Too often, managers jump straight into slides, updates, or instructions without thinking about the impact of their message. As a result, even important communication falls flat, creates confusion, or leaves teams unsure what to do next.


    Fortunately, this week’s guest shares a simple yet powerful framework for making every message more intentional, engaging, and effective.


    Andy Freed is the Chairman of Virtual Inc., a strategic consulting and professional services firm that supports mission-driven organizations across technology, healthcare, and financial services. With more than 30 years of experience leading teams through growth and transformation, Andy is known for helping leaders communicate in ways that spark alignment, action, and trust. He’s also the author of Lead Like The Boss: The Bruce Springsteen Framework to Elevating Your Leadership.


    In this conversation, we explore how leaders can craft messages that stick, why consistency matters more than novelty, and how to bring energy and authenticity into everyday communication.


    Get FREE mini-episode guides with the week’s episode's big idea delivered to your inbox when you subscribe to my weekly email.


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    Conversation Topics

    • (00:00) Introduction
    • (02:42) Leadership lessons from Bruce Springsteen
    • (04:25) The Think, Feel, Do communication framework
    • (06:59) Why unclear messaging creates unintended consequences
    • (09:35) The power of consistency in leadership communication
    • (13:18) Crafting a clear central message
    • (18:06) How energy influences engagement and impact
    • (23:23) Leadership as performance even offstage
    • (25:07) Tone, technology, and communication mistakes
    • (28:58) Why PowerPoint often fails leaders
    • (31:56) [Extended Episode Only] Preparation and technology in modern communication
    • (34:19) [Extended Episode Only] How AI can support stronger messaging


    📚 Additional Resources:


    ✨Get the extended episode by joining The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community for just $15 per month


    ✨ Read the full transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cnls8gh0b00TR70jIO6KojI4WsaD_zaNslXfM1VQkx8/edit?usp=sharing 

     

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    Keep Up with ​​Andy Freed

    - Connect with Andy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyfreed/

    - Visit his website: https://andyfreed.com/

    Guest Bonus: 3 Book Giveaways: Lead like the Boss: The Bruce Springsteen Framework to Elevating Your Leadership


    Following the arc of Bruce "The Boss" Springsteen's legendary stage performances, this book demonstrates how to communicate your ideas to your followers and colleagues in ways that are authentic, intentional, and effective.

    To get this bonus and many other member benefits, become a member of The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community.

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    Follow The Modern Manager on your favorite podcast platform so you won’t miss an episode!


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    32 min
  • 396: Mental Performance: Combining High Expectations and High Support with Evan Marks

    Many managers believe pressure drives performance. Others focus heavily on support. But high-performing teams don’t choose one or the other. They operate with both.


    When expectations are high, but support is low, people become defensive, stressed, and disengaged. 


    When support is high but expectations are low, performance suffers. The real challenge for managers is learning how to balance intensity with kindness so teams feel both challenged and supported.


    Fortunately, this week’s guest shares a practical and grounded approach to building this balance. 


    Evan Marks, a mental performance coach who has worked in high-stakes environments, explains why people don’t rise to the occasion but fall to their level of training. He also shares how structure, emotional regulation, and clear communication help teams perform under pressure.


    In this conversation, we explore how to create psychological safety without lowering standards, how to shift from feedback to “feedforward,” and why leaders must model ownership and emotional control if they want their teams to do the same.


    Get FREE mini-episode guides with the big idea from the week’s episode delivered to your inbox when you subscribe to my weekly email.


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    💡Conversation Topics

    • (00:00) Introduction
    • (02:06) The gap between expectations and preparation
    • (04:48) Structure vs. wishing for performance
    • (08:15) Autonomy inside strong guardrails
    • (11:22) Psychological safety in high-performance environments
    • (15:03) Intensity with kindness
    • (19:26) Feedforward instead of feedback
    • (23:40) Leadership, ownership, and accountability
    • (27:12) Language, emotional control, and awareness
    • (29:43) [Extended Episode Only] Elevating team mental performance
    • (33:31) [Extended Episode Only] Building psychological safety without lowering standards
    • (37:39) [Extended Episode Only] Ownership, trust, and team culture


    📚 Additional Resources:


    ✨Get the extended episode by joining The Modern Manager Podcast+. Community for just $15 per month


    ✨ Read the full transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zN2YyAMYJXogkS7Pv1zh_zTFLw19q_K5ZPwa20qq0GU/edit?usp=sharing 

     

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    Keep up with Evan Marks


    - Connect with Evan on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmarks-m1/ 

    - Explore website here: http://www.m1performancegroup.com/ 


    📢 Guest Bonus: The 20-Minute Evening Reset


    This 5-Step Evening Reset gives you the foundation for peak performance. This reset combines breathwork, journaling, goal setting, and clearing mental clutter so you wake up as your most focused, composed self.

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    32 min
  • 395: How Unspoken Norms are Quietly Sabotaging Your Team with Nilofer Merchant

    Many teams struggle with the same invisible problem: unspoken norms that quietly undermine collaboration, performance, and trust. 


    Even when leaders want better behaviors, more ownership, healthier boundaries, and stronger collaboration, change often stalls because no one has named what’s actually happening.


    Fortunately, this week’s guest helps managers put language to the hidden norms shaping their teams and offers a practical way to replace judgment-based practices with norms that help people do their best work.


    Nilofer Merchant is a bestselling author, speaker, and thought leader on innovation, collaboration, and organizational culture. In her work, she focuses on helping leaders identify the outdated norms holding teams back and redesign work in ways that unlock human potential. She is the author of Our Best Work and founder of The Intangible Labs.


    In this conversation, we explore how managers can surface unspoken norms, talk about them without defensiveness, and create shared ownership for cultural change. We also discuss why real change requires choice, not control, and how small shifts in language and process can cascade into healthier team dynamics.


    Get FREE mini-episode guides with the week’s episode's big idea delivered to your inbox when you subscribe to my weekly email.


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    Conversation Topics

    • (00:00) Introduction
    • (02:18) Why unspoken norms quietly shape team behavior
    • (06:04) Naming judgment-based practices that limit performance
    • (10:41) Replacing judgment with encouragement at work
    • (15:36) How language gives teams permission to change
    • (19:58) Connecting team values to everyday behaviors
    • (24:27) Why do people resist change even when they want it
    • (29:02) Creating choice instead of control to enable real change
    • (30:02) [Extended Episode Only] How to talk openly about norms as a team
    • (33:12) [Extended Episode Only] Using shared ownership to sustain new behaviors
    • (37:57) [Extended Episode Only] Designing work that supports flexibility and trust


    📚 Additional Resources:


    ✨Get the extended episode by joining The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community for just $15 per month


    ✨ Read the full transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gi5EaI0UEf6AAUlTP56KXuQWU2Uv_tLNoq1ciyKI4Jg/edit?usp=sharing 

     

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    Keep up with Nilofer Merchant

    - Connect with her on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nilofermerchant/ 

    Guest Bonus: Early Access to the Growth Assessment


    Intangibles now drive 84% of value creation, yet most managers are flying blind. This early access gives you visibility into the invisible drivers of growth and data on what actually happens when you address what matters. 


    To get this bonus and many other member benefits, become a member of The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community.

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    The Modern Manager is a leadership podcast for rockstar managers who want to create a working environment where people thrive, and great work gets done.


    Follow The Modern Manager on your favorite podcast platform so you won’t miss an episode!



    #Leadership #Management #WorkplaceCulture #TeamCulture #OrganizationalCulture



    33 min
  • 394: How to Manage Big (and Small) Emotions at Work with Jordanna Eyre

    Managing a team gets especially challenging when emotions run high.


    Whether it’s you who regularly rides the emotional rollercoaster or a team member who explodes in meetings, shuts down during feedback, or feels unpredictable from one conversation to the next, many managers struggle with how to respond when emotions show up in the workplace.


    Fortunately, this week’s guest offers a grounded framework for supporting emotional intensity at work without becoming a therapist and without ignoring what’s really happening.


    Jordanna Eyre is the founder of Spiral Growth Systems and the creator of the Spiral Leadership Methodology, a transformational framework designed to help leaders work with time, energy, emotions, and growth in non-linear ways. Known as the Chief Sorceress of Life & Business, Jordanna helps leaders expand their capacity, regulate their nervous systems, and lead with greater presence and clarity.


    In this conversation, we explore how leaders can hold space for emotions without fixing or minimizing them, when support crosses into referral, and how emotional safety creates stronger teams over time.


    Get FREE mini-episode guides with the week’s episode's big idea delivered to your inbox when you subscribe to my weekly email.


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    Conversation Topics

    • (00:00) Introduction
    • (02:21) Supporting team members with big emotions
    • (06:04) Why leaders must regulate themselves first
    • (09:46) Management vs. leadership in emotional situations
    • (14:10) Fear as a blocker to anger, grief, and sadness
    • (18:32) How suppressed emotions show up as ego or shutdown
    • (23:48) Holding space without fixing or minimizing
    • (27:55) When to refer instead of intervene
    • (31:55) [Extended Episode Only] Expanding emotional capacity as a leader
    • (33:13) [Extended Episode Only] What to say when emotions run high
    • (36:52) [Extended Episode Only] Seeing the wisdom beneath behavior
    • (40:41) [Extended Episode Only] Building shared leadership through emotional safety


    📚 Additional Resources:


    ✨Get the extended episode by joining The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community for just $15 per month


    ✨ Read the full transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mSaEY2s0yvDn3oYir1bJvsteVVTQWght53jY0JR_Z_E/edit?usp=sharing 

     

    ✨Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mamieks/ 


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    ✨Upskill your team: https://themodernmanager.com/replaybundle 


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    Keep up with Jordanna Eyre


    - LinkedIn here https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordannaeyre/ 

    - Visit the website: https://spiralgrowthsystems.com/


    Guest Bonus: Free VIP Upgrade for The 5-day Make Time Your Ally Challenge


    Join the 5-day Make Time Your Ally Challenge to relieve leadership pressure holistically and sustainably by learning to navigate your time and energy with the natural laws of Creation. Modern Manager community members receive an exclusive upgrade to VIP, which includes access to the laser session area for direct support at the General Admission price!


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    The Modern Manager is a leadership podcast for rockstar managers who want to create a working environment where people thrive, and great work gets done.


    Follow The Modern Manager on your favorite podcast platform so you won’t miss an episode!


    #LeadershipDevelopment #EmotionalIntelligence #ManagementSkills #ModernLeadership

    #PeopleManagement #ManagingEmotions #WorkplaceEmotions #LeadershipMindset #LeadingTeams #TeamDynamics


    34 min
  • 393: How to Build a Win-Win Workplace with Angela Jackson

    Many organizations say they want to invest in people, but their hiring and talent practices often tell a very different story.


    Degree requirements, limited benefits packages, and poor management practices continue to limit who gets access to opportunity and how teams perform. And the cost shows up everywhere: higher turnover, slower productivity, and missed potential.


    Fortunately, this week’s guest brings clear data and practical strategies that show how companies can do better for both people and performance.


    Dr. Angela Jackson is a Workplace Futurist and ESG expert, founder of Future Forward Strategies, and a lecturer at Harvard Graduate School of Education. She works with entrepreneurs, F100s, and policymakers on the future of work. Dr. Angela holds a doctorate from Harvard University and serves on several boards, including Needham Bancorp. Her book, The Win-Win Workplace, became a New York Times, USA Today, and Los Angeles Times Best Seller


    If you want to build stronger teams, reduce turnover, and boost performance inside your organization, this episode offers a practical roadmap.


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    Conversation Topics

    • (00:00) Why “being your best self at work” is a business imperative
    • (02:52) What is a “zero-sum workplace”?
    • (06:05) What happens when workplaces invest in people
    • (06:57) The 9 pillars of a Win-Win Workplace (overview)
    • (12:26) What managers can do (even without company-wide power)
    • (19:03) Distributed leadership and the Ownership mindset
    • (26:57) A great manager story
    • (29:30) How to connect with Angela
    • (30:45) [Extended Interview] Building a deep talent bench
    • (32:30) [Extended Interview] Hiring for skills, not credentials
    • (36:18) [Extended Interview] How to design a skills-based interview

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    33 min
  • 392: The Leadership Skill Everyone Thinks They Have (But Rarely Do) with Dr. Helen Fagan

    About 95% of people believe they’re self-aware, but research shows only 10–15% actually are. And that gap matters, especially for managers.

    Self-awareness shapes how we communicate, make decisions, handle conflict, and interpret others’ behavior. When we don’t understand what’s driving our reactions or how our actions land, we risk creating friction, bias, and misunderstanding on our teams without realizing it.

    Fortunately, this week’s guest helps us unpack what true self-awareness really is, where it comes from, and how managers can develop it in practical, grounded ways.


    Dr. Helen Fagan is a leadership development expert and author of Lead Like People Matter. Drawing on neuroscience, intercultural research, and decades of coaching leaders, Helen explains how our values, cultural conditioning, and unconscious brain systems shape how we show up at work and what it takes to interrupt patterns that no longer serve us.


    In this conversation, we explore how to notice emotional reactions before they hijack us, how to give feedback without attacking identity, and how managers can build self-awareness in themselves and their teams without it feeling awkward.

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    Conversation Topics

    • (00:00) Introduction
    • (02:20) What self-awareness actually means (and common misconceptions)
    • (04:02) How culture and values shape workplace behavior
    • (07:41) Why different work styles aren’t “wrong,” just different
    • (10:13) How unconscious beliefs influence leadership decisions
    • (12:56) Using emotional reactions as data, not direction
    • (16:46) Recognizing physical signals of stress and reactivity
    • (19:40) Naming emotions to reduce conflict and improve communication
    • (33:37) Helping someone build self-awareness without making it personal
    • (39:29) [Extended Episode] System 1 vs. System 2 thinking and emotional hijacking
    • (42:14) [Extended Episode] Practical ways to re-engage logic during emotional moments

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