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Why do so many people who know how to lift weights, track macros, and prioritize recovery still struggle to stay consistent long term? How do you design a fitness system that actually survives the chaos of real life? And what hidden “meta skills” separate lifelong success from endless restarts?

Alan Lazaros, CEO and co-host of Next Level University, joins me to break down the architecture of consistency, how to build muscle, lose fat, and achieve lasting results through evidence-based fitness and self-mastery. We explore the difference between skills and meta skills, why consistency is a mental framework, and how engineering principles apply to sustainable strength training, body recomp, and weight loss.

If you’ve ever felt stuck between knowing and doing, this conversation will rewire how you think about fitness forever. Tune in to Wits & Weights with Philip Pape, your go-to fitness coach for evidence-based nutrition and training.

Today, you’ll learn all about:

0:00 – Intro
2:40 – The concept of meta skills
5:50 – Flow and the challenge-skill sweet spot
9:10 – The compound effect and daily progress
12:00 – Redefining consistency as a meta skill
19:00 – Minimum viable habits for long-term success
26:00 – Alan’s seven pillars of fitness
37:00 – Why engineers struggle with fitness
47:00 – Focus as the ultimate meta skill

Episode resources:

• Website/Podcast: nextleveluniverse.com
• Instagram: @alazaros88 
• LinkedIn: @alanlazarosllc 
• Facebook: @alan.lazaros 

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