Today we are sharing a special, timely episode of Honoring the Journey where Leslie invites Ben Cremer back to the show to dive deep into the challenges of navigating grief, polarization, and faith in today’s divided world. Through honest conversation, personal stories, and a powerful parable, they explore what it means to see beyond our own lenses, embrace empathy, and walk the narrow way of love and compassion—even when it’s difficult.

Points of Interest:

• Ben Cremer’s reflections on grief and naming our pain
• The parable of the sunglasses: seeing the world through different lenses
• The struggle of being “in the middle” during polarized times
• Misconceptions about being Christ-like in moments of conflict
• The role of fear and certainty in fueling division
• Practical ways to embody peacemaking and compassion
• The importance of curiosity, humility, and authentic conversation
• How laughter and hope can be acts of resistance
• Advice for maintaining kindness and standing up for what’s right
• Insights on repentance, empathy, and the power of community

Find Ben on Substack, Instagram, Facebook and Listen to His Podcast, Into the Gray.

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