The NAVigator

John Cole Scott, chief investment officer at Closed-End Fund Advisors and the chairman of the Active Investment Company Alliance, talks about the search for closed-end funds that can deliver in rising-rate, high-inflation conditions, talks about five issues from different categories that pass muster now, and explains how in today's business-development company space, "Sometimes discounts are expensive and premiums are cheap."

Nathan Shetty, head of multi-asset for Nuveen and co-manager of the Nuveen Multi-Asset Income Fund, discusses the importance of using proper allocations to generate reasonable and consistent total returns in a low-return environment. Shetty notes that proper diversification and risk management are particularly important in times like today, with so many wild cards, headline risks and uncertainties.

Mike Taggart of Taggart Fund Intelligence -- executive director of the Active Investment Company Alliance -- reviews the first-quarter results for closed-end funds, noting that discounts widened out during a rough period for the market, reaching a crossroads where investors are trying to decide now if the discount has hit a level low enough to represent a good risk premium and a buying opportunity. Taggart also discusses interval funds, the focus of an upcoming AICA educational event, and how the growth in the space is giving investors interesting opportunities in alternatives.

Bob Long, chief executive officer at Conversus -- which manages the Conversus StepStone Private Markets Fund -- returns to the NAVigator to discuss private equity and how investors looking for success must commit to overcoming the J-curve, the start-up period when private-equity investments tend to lose money in the early days in order to be positioned for long-run success. Individual investors wanting to avoid the pain of those start-ups through diversification are increasingly turning to interval funds and business-development companies in the space, finding assets that are less correlated to the stock market, but which can ride out the volatility of the J-curve to benefit from start-up and private-equity exposure.

Steven Bavaria, author of "Inside the Income Factory" on SeekingAlpha.com, says that current market conditions have shown the value of focusing on income streams rather than the value of the underlying securities, allowing investors the peace of mind that comes from generating cash-flow and putting that money back to work buying at a discount. Bavaria noted that when a manufacturing company builds a production plant, they don't worry about the resale value of the factory but instead focus on its output; he says investors should act the same way, focusing less on the fluctuations in value of their investments and more on getting consistent, above-average yields, which provide a comforting cash stream that makes tough times -- like the first quarter of this year -- much easier to stomach.

Michael Bell, founder of Primark Capital -- which runs the Primark Private Equity Investments Fund, a closed-end interval fund -- discusses how changing market conditions have reduced the number of public companies and dramatically increased the number of available private equity investments, which he says are best handled in the limited-liquidity structure of an interval fund. It creates an opportunity to buy brand-name middle-market companies that investors can't access in traditional funds.

Mitchel Penn, managing director of equity research for Oppenheimer and Co., talks about the challenges of analyzing and evaluating business-development companies, and then highlights Runway Growth Finance Corp. -- which his firm expects to outperform the market and competition -- to show the methodology in action and to showcase the place BDCs should occupy in diversified investment portfolios.

Eric Boughton, chief analyst at Matisse Capital and portfolio manager for the Matisse Discounted Closed-End Fund Strategy, says that the war in Ukraine has been creating deep discounts and bigger buying opportunities for closed-end fund investors, noting that emerging markets and international stocks went into the conflict already at low levels, which now means investors are getting 'a discount on a discount.' He notes that international equity closed-end funds now are trading at a median discount of 12 percent, compared to a long-term discount of 10 percent; international bond closed-end funds now trade at a median discount of 11 percent, compared to a normal average of 8 percent. Those conditions – and wider discounts – should improve investor confidence that the investments can rebound quickly from the war.

Seth Brufsky, chief executive officer for the Ares Dynamic Credit Allocation Fund, says that conditions since the end of the year have changed from concerns over what the Federal Reserve would do, 'changing the calculus' for how people should and will invest. Brufsky says the focus entering the year was on floating-rate investments, but now that there are lingering concerns about inflation and higher rates that -- along with geopolitical concerns -- are forcing investors to re-evaluate priorities but also investment options. Brusky says that fixed-income markets are becoming increasingly attractive in these conditions -- particularly in high-yield bonds, but also with some investment-grade securities -- because the potential for capital appreciation has grown dramatically.

Mike Taggart of Taggart Fund Intelligence, the executive director of the Active Investment Company Alliance, returns to The NAVigator following up on his recent discussion of buying assets rather than discounts by answering some questions from the audience about the persistence of discounts and where discounts fit into the picture once you have purchased a fund.